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    Christian Theology - Thread: The false gospel of grace

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      The false gospel of grace

      ....to keep you under the bondage of sin. The false gospel of grace is one that has been cleverly devised for these last days which is almost impossible to differentiate from the true gospel. This is because the false gospel of grace uses exactly the same vocabulary that the true gospel uses with some serious spin doctoring.

      Satan has basically invented a false gospel of grace that is every sinner's dream come true. Of course we are all sinners, but evil comes and using this false gospel of grace, tells Christians they are free to sin and delve into iniquity to the point there are now two classes of sinners these days which are 180 degrees apart when it comes to being under the dominion of sin in Satans lair. One class of sinners likes it that way, and the others want out from sin and its dominion.

      The devil has designed this false gospel of grace for the first group. The false gospel tells sinners that they are in good and regular standing in their sin, which is what some have always wanted to hear, that Jesus saves us while we keep on sinning and continue happily in its bondage.

      The true gospel is the news for every sinner who is fed up with sin and its bondage, and longing to be set free from its penalty and power and that gospel is sin shall not have dominion over us. When we accept Christ we do it with the understanding of what sin has done to us, its true price and the comprehension of its ultimate result of eternal death. We dont want its corruption to ourselves and its destructive influence over us, so we come to Christ who cleanses us from its wages and its dominion. That is the true gospel, to be alive in Christ not dead in sin, to be set free by Him from sins wages and so that sin is no longer our master, destroying and corrupting us with its evil.....

      Scripture is clear on what the true gospel is, not a license to sin but a way to become free from sin and iniquity..

      Romans 6:1-14

      1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
      2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
      3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
      4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
      6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
      7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
      8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
      9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
      10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
      11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
      13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
      14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hobie View Post
      ....to keep you under the bondage of sin. The false gospel of grace is one that has been cleverly devised for these last days which is almost impossible to differentiate from the true gospel. This is because the false gospel of grace uses exactly the same vocabulary that the true gospel uses with some serious spin doctoring.

      Satan has basically invented a false gospel of grace that is every sinner's dream come true. Of course we are all sinners, but evil comes and using this false gospel of grace, tells Christians they are free to sin and delve into iniquity to the point there are now two classes of sinners these days which are 180 degrees apart when it comes to being under the dominion of sin in Satans lair. One class of sinners likes it that way, and the others want out from sin and its dominion.

      The devil has designed this false gospel of grace for the first group. The false gospel tells sinners that they are in good and regular standing in their sin, which is what some have always wanted to hear, that Jesus saves us while we keep on sinning and continue happily in its bondage.
      Help us out here. What church(es) or groups of people specifically are you referring to as preaching and believing that Satanic gospel? I don't think I have ever met any, although I read threads denouncing "them" rather often.

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      I agree with Albion and would like to know which churches teach that we should go out and sin?
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus


      1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hobie View Post
      ....to keep you under the bondage of sin. The false gospel of grace is one that has been cleverly devised for these last days which is almost impossible to differentiate from the true gospel. This is because the false gospel of grace uses exactly the same vocabulary that the true gospel uses with some serious spin doctoring.
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      Yes, sadly "another gospel" of grace that trumps all of God's commands is widely taught and accepted in many churches today.

      It is rather long, but this video exposes some of these "hyper grace" teachers who truthfully are leading many down the "wide path."

      "having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.” - Heb 5:9
      "let no one deceive you. The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous" - 1John 3:7
      Indeed, our Eternal lot is determined by our obedience and our behavior. (mdb)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
      Yes, sadly "another gospel" of grace that trumps all of God's commands is widely taught and accepted in many churches today.

      It is rather long, but this video exposes some of these "hyper grace" teachers who truthfully are leading many down the "wide path."

      Three hours!!!!!!!

      I actually seen it before I think, the intro sounds familiar

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      Quote Originally Posted by hobie View Post
      ....to keep you under the bondage of sin. The false gospel of grace is one that has been cleverly devised for these last days which is almost impossible to differentiate from the true gospel. This is because the false gospel of grace uses exactly the same vocabulary that the true gospel uses with some serious spin doctoring.

      Satan has basically invented a false gospel of grace that is every sinner's dream come true. Of course we are all sinners, but evil comes and using this false gospel of grace, tells Christians they are free to sin and delve into iniquity to the point there are now two classes of sinners these days which are 180 degrees apart when it comes to being under the dominion of sin in Satans lair. One class of sinners likes it that way, and the others want out from sin and its dominion.

      The devil has designed this false gospel of grace for the first group. The false gospel tells sinners that they are in good and regular standing in their sin, which is what some have always wanted to hear, that Jesus saves us while we keep on sinning and continue happily in its bondage.

      The true gospel is the news for every sinner who is fed up with sin and its bondage, and longing to be set free from its penalty and power and that gospel is sin shall not have dominion over us. When we accept Christ we do it with the understanding of what sin has done to us, its true price and the comprehension of its ultimate result of eternal death. We dont want its corruption to ourselves and its destructive influence over us, so we come to Christ who cleanses us from its wages and its dominion. That is the true gospel, to be alive in Christ not dead in sin, to be set free by Him from sins wages and so that sin is no longer our master, destroying and corrupting us with its evil.....

      Scripture is clear on what the true gospel is, not a license to sin but a way to become free from sin and iniquity..

      Romans 6:1-14

      1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
      2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
      3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
      4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
      6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
      7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
      8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
      9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
      10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
      11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
      13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
      14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
      There is only one true gospel. Paul told us that other imitators would come and they have since his day. The gospel has been attacked in all sorts of ways. You see it as early as the letter to Galatia and Colossae where the Jews were trying to add to the gospel.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      There is only one true gospel. Paul told us that other imitators would come and they have since his day. The gospel has been attacked in all sorts of ways. You see it as early as the letter to Galatia and Colossae where the Jews were trying to add to the gospel.
      Very true! The one true Gospel is about God's great love and mercy...For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus


      1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I agree with Albion and would like to know which churches teach that we should go out and sin?
      What churches follow the Ten Commandments? Gods law exists as long as He does.

      1 John 3:4 King James Version (KJV)
      Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

      Luke 18:18-20 King James Version (KJV)

      18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
      19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
      20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
      Last edited by hobie; 09-13-2019 at 06:47 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hobie View Post
      What churches follow the Ten Commandments? Gods law exists as long as He does.

      1 John 3:4 King James Version (KJV)
      Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

      Luke 18:18-20 King James Version (KJV)

      18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
      19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
      20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
      What churches don't believe that we should obey God's Law?

      The problem comes in when people believe that they can fulfill the Law when Jesus did that for us. Salvation by grace and not by works, remember?
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus


      1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      What churches don't believe that we should obey God's Law?

      The problem comes in when people believe that they can fulfill the Law when Jesus did that for us. Salvation by grace and not by works, remember?
      So do we continue with idols and graven images in the church, do we ignore the day that God made holy and says to "Remember", and how can a church leader have people bow to him and even 'kiss the ring' which is basically paying homage, and what of the most basic of sins, coveting what the neighbor has. Most people are too afraid to get caught to go and steal it, but they want what they see next door, and look to see if they can get it. It is at the heart of our way of life, the idea of "he who has the most toys wins", we see it and we want it, and it has gotten into the church by way of the "prosperity gospel" ...
      Last edited by hobie; 09-13-2019 at 08:22 PM.

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