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    Christian Theology - Thread: Forgiveness of others

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      Forgiveness of others

      Are we to forgive only our brothers and sisters in Church or outside the church who may have raped you, stolen from you, beat you etc...
      The Lords Prayer implies all who have trespassed.
      I assume that the few who have traumatised me in the past and who care not to change their ways -I should still forgive them in heart, most likely I may never come across them again in my life, once I did and I was very hostile just in my presence, I said a few things to him and walked away never looking into his eyes even... He was stalking me and I try to avoid him because he really damaged me when I was younger, molested me in my sleep, im still very bitter towards him and he is a satanist on top of that, so should I forgive him as an unbeliever? Or does this imply to members of a church?

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      You touch on a hard one my friend. Yes we are to forgive all in and out of the church. It is very hard especially when you have been hurt badly and it is a process that takes time. We need Gods strength sometimes to even come to the place where we know we need to forgive. Forgiveness is really about us and what we carry around more so than about the other person. When we can really forgive and let go it is like a burden has been lifted from us so while it may bring someone to repentance it is more about our own wellbeing.
      Isaiah 40:31

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      I forgave him a few years ago through text and even offered him words of encouragement that God could rid his demons if he would come into the Faith, he blew it off...
      But when he started following me from work to lunch I was really short with him, his nephew had passed away and I told him I am very sorry to hear that, prayers and condolences to the family, then he went on asking if I would play music for a get together in honor of him, he was making all that up, he just wanted to hang out again but I wasn't falling for it, he doesn't care about people dying anyway, he uses death and other means for old friends to come by and hang out, no one does... His friends were my friends and after they found out what happened they stopped hanging around him.
      He has a fake girls facebook profile where in the past he has hit on me online but I knew right away who it was and exposed him, he stopped testing then... Well after the confrontation at lunch he sent me a text using her account (because he was blocked) saying "or maybe you just dont care"... Yeah he knows im a Christian now so he is using that as well to guilt trip me into going over to his house. Never going to happen... I guess I forgive him but I still dont want him in my life nor do I care to see him around.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
      I forgave him a few years ago through text and even offered him words of encouragement that God could rid his demons if he would come into the Faith, he blew it off...
      But when he started following me from work to lunch I was really short with him, his nephew had passed away and I told him I am very sorry to hear that, prayers and condolences to the family, then he went on asking if I would play music for a get together in honor of him, he was making all that up, he just wanted to hang out again but I wasn't falling for it, he doesn't care about people dying anyway, he uses death and other means for old friends to come by and hang out, no one does... His friends were my friends and after they found out what happened they stopped hanging around him.
      He has a fake girls facebook profile where in the past he has hit on me online but I knew right away who it was and exposed him, he stopped testing then... Well after the confrontation at lunch he sent me a text using her account (because he was blocked) saying "or maybe you just dont care"... Yeah he knows im a Christian now so he is using that as well to guilt trip me into going over to his house. Never going to happen... I guess I forgive him but I still dont want him in my life nor do I care to see him around.
      Forgiveness in no way says you have to allow abuse again or even be friends or be around him. As long as you can let go of the bitterness that is good for you. At some point your forgiveness and witness may bring him around but that is only between him and God. I pray that through all this you are able to come to terms with all this and move on.
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Forgiveness does not mean you have to forego boundaries. You also don't even have to go up to every person and tell them they're forgiven. Sometimes it's beneficial to a relationship to do so and for reconciliation.

      Forgiveness is a gift from you to someone else. It should not be earned by that person. That's not forgiveness. We didn't earn God's forgiveness, it's a gift.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Forgiveness is a gift both for the giver and the receiver but trust is earned.

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      You touch on a hard one my friend. Yes we are to forgive all in and out of the church. It is very hard especially when you have been hurt badly and it is a process that takes time. We need Gods strength sometimes to even come to the place where we know we need to forgive. Forgiveness is really about us and what we carry around more so than about the other person. When we can really forgive and let go it is like a burden has been lifted from us so while it may bring someone to repentance it is more about our own wellbeing.

      Good points, my friend....


      Yeah, I too am struck with what Jesus stated in the Lord's Prayer and that I pray every day....

      I'm also struck by Jesus on the Cross... one of the Seven Last Words.... always hits me every Good Friday.... Jesus asked the Father to forgive His unbelieving, unrepentant executioners. They didn't believe..they were not repentant... they took glee in their art of killing.... and Jesus forgives them.

      I sometimes struggle to REALLY forgive the brother or sister who actually repents. I think we are to do much more than that.

      Another thing. For ME, I can SAY I forgive....that I bury the hatchet.... but sometimes I leave the handle sticking out. There are STILL things - from YEARS ago - I'm still hanging onto. This ONLY hurts me AND my relationship to God. Working on that. As the post above says, forgiveness is a blessing also to the one forgiving.
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      Forgiveness requires God's grace in us. We do not, by nature, forgive others with no conditions attached. It takes God, working in us, to forgive others.

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      Probably one of the most powerful examples of forgiveness one may ever get to see.



      This is a sermon jam featuring Voddie Baucham on the topic of forgiveness. It neatly packs together what forgiveness and unforgiveness and what it means in 8 minutes. It's probably a short section of a longer sermon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bluezone777 View Post


      Probably one of the most powerful examples of forgiveness one may ever get to see.



      This is a sermon jam featuring Voddie Baucham on the topic of forgiveness. It neatly packs together what forgiveness and unforgiveness and what it means in 8 minutes. It's probably a short section of a longer sermon.
      I have grown to appreciate Voddie Baucham. He has a gift of breaking things down to simple ideas. Thanks for sharing this video.

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