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    Christian Theology - Thread: "no religion" designation

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      "no religion" designation

      "For the first time "No Religion" has topped a survey of Americans' religious identity, according to a new analysis by a political scientist. The non-religious edged out Catholics and evangelicals in the long-running General Social Survey.
      Ryan Burge, a political scientist at Eastern Illinois University and a Baptist pastor, found that 23.1% of Americans now claim no religion."

      this is from this web site
      https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/no...rnd/index.html

      I'm not surprised by this view personally.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      "For the first time "No Religion" has topped a survey of Americans' religious identity, according to a new analysis by a political scientist. The non-religious edged out Catholics and evangelicals in the long-running General Social Survey.
      Ryan Burge, a political scientist at Eastern Illinois University and a Baptist pastor, found that 23.1% of Americans now claim no religion."

      this is from this web site
      https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/no...rnd/index.html

      I'm not surprised by this view personally.
      My previous pastor over 10 years ago said this nation was becoming the new mission ground because of the increase of non-believers. It seems now there is adequate data to support his claim.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      I often wonder to what extent this is merely a more accurate reflection rather than a gradual change. In the UK it always used to be pretty standard to list religion as "Church of England" even if you hadn't set foot in a church in years and believed the core teachings of Christianity were "every man for himself".
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      "For the first time "No Religion" has topped a survey of Americans' religious identity, according to a new analysis by a political scientist. The non-religious edged out Catholics and evangelicals in the long-running General Social Survey.
      Ryan Burge, a political scientist at Eastern Illinois University and a Baptist pastor, found that 23.1% of Americans now claim no religion."

      this is from this web site
      https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/no...rnd/index.html

      I'm not surprised by this view personally.
      Judges 17:6 In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.
      Judges 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.
      ... everyone did what was right in their own eyes...
      The slogan of the disunited states of america.

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      If 23% claim no religion that suggests 77% do claim a religion. I guess if you break the major world religions into small enough groups you can make atheists and agnostics look like the normal, even if they do represent less than a quarter of the population.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      If 23% claim no religion that suggests 77% do claim a religion. I guess if you break the major world religions into small enough groups you can make atheists and agnostics look like the normal, even if they do represent less than a quarter of the population.
      It looks like a relatively low number of people in the survey. I think it said 2,000. Depending on how they gathered the data that could change the numbers.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      If 23% claim no religion that suggests 77% do claim a religion. I guess if you break the major world religions into small enough groups you can make atheists and agnostics look like the normal, even if they do represent less than a quarter of the population.
      That's right. We ought to be careful about accepting the possibility that No Religion now is the most popular religion in the country. The survey results split the Christians into a number of separate groups, somewhat arbitrarily IMO, comparing each of them with the No Religion people irrespective of all variations in the beliefs of the NR people. Christianity, as a religion, clearly has more followers than No Religion.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      "For the first time "No Religion" has topped a survey of Americans' religious identity, according to a new analysis by a political scientist. The non-religious edged out Catholics and evangelicals in the long-running General Social Survey.
      Ryan Burge, a political scientist at Eastern Illinois University and a Baptist pastor, found that 23.1% of Americans now claim no religion."

      this is from this web site
      https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/no...rnd/index.html

      I'm not surprised by this view personally.
      Perhaps it is because of the way USA Christianity is so tightly allied to politics now that people think ill of it and prefer "no religion" to Christianity.
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      He is the patron of impossible causes because the scriptural Letter of St. Jude, which he authored, urges Christians to persevere in difficult times.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      That's right. We ought to be careful about accepting the possibility that No Religion now is the most popular religion in the country. The survey results split the Christians into a number of separate groups, somewhat arbitrarily IMO, comparing each of them with the No Religion people irrespective of all variations in the beliefs of the NR people. Christianity, as a religion, clearly has more followers than No Religion.
      Catholics and evangelicals self define the split don't they? Evangelicals often say that Catholics are not Christians. It is less common for Catholics to say that evangelicals are not Christians. So the survey is not breaking new ground by separating Evangelicals and Catholics one from the other.
      Saint Jude, author of the new testament letter.

      He is the patron of impossible causes because the scriptural Letter of St. Jude, which he authored, urges Christians to persevere in difficult times.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Catholics and evangelicals self define the split don't they? Evangelicals often say that Catholics are not Christians. It is less common for Catholics to say that evangelicals are not Christians. So the survey is not breaking new ground by separating Evangelicals and Catholics one from the other.
      Whoever defined the split, if "Catholic" plus "Evangelical" is more than "no religion" then more people believe in the God of the Bible than don't, regardless of how the stats are presented.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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