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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: ROMANS 11 WHO IS THE WILD OLIVE TREE?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      How about The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel. it is in the first chapter of the gospel according to saint Mark.
      That was Jesus preaching the gospel of the Kingdom not the gospel of salvation.

      The two have to be distinguished and understood in their own context.

      The gospel of salvation was not preached until after Pentecost.

      The gospel of the kingdom was preached before that time.



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      "Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ Romans 5:1

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      YTG
      You are misquoting me. Trying to make it sound as though I believe in a works gospel. That is not correct.
      I said God gives us the desire to repent because He would not save a person unless He also provided repentance.



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      Quote Originally Posted by RichWh1 View Post
      YTG
      You are misquoting me. Trying to make it sound as though I believe in a works gospel. That is not correct.
      I said God gives us the desire to repent because He would not save a person unless He also provided repentance.



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      Prove it that I did that. Quote exactly where I did that.

      I am doing no such thing. You have Calvin's beliefs and it is false.

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      ROMANS 11 WHO IS THE WILD OLIVE TREE?

      Quote Originally Posted by YourTruthGod View Post
      Prove it that I did that. Quote exactly where I did that.

      I am doing no such thing. You have Calvin's beliefs and it is false.
      You said that I was saying that we must believe that God makes us do something before He saves us. I didn't say that

      I have Christian beliefs. I don't follow the teachings of men. I follow the teachings of Christ.



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      Quote Originally Posted by RichWh1 View Post
      You said that I was saying that we must believe that God makes us do something before He saves us. I didn't say that

      I have Christian beliefs. I don't follow the teachings of men. I follow the teachings of Christ.



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      Quote me where I say what you claim.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RichWh1 View Post
      That was Jesus preaching the gospel of the Kingdom not the gospel of salvation.

      The two have to be distinguished and understood in their own context.

      The gospel of salvation was not preached until after Pentecost.

      The gospel of the kingdom was preached before that time.

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      One thing that constantly surprises me about Protestants is how many crazy gospels and messages they attribute to the new testament.

      Okay, you have at least two gospels now. Any more? Kingdom, Salvation, anything else?
      Saint Jude, author of the new testament letter.

      He is the patron of impossible causes because the scriptural Letter of St. Jude, which he authored, urges Christians to persevere in difficult times.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RichWh1 View Post

      I have Christian beliefs. I don't follow the teachings of men. I follow the teachings of Christ.
      You didn't learn what you believe at a University?
      The beliefs you have are not in the scriptures.
      Give one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.

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      Quote Originally Posted by YourTruthGod View Post
      You didn't learn what you believe at a University?
      The beliefs you have are not in the scriptures.
      Give one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.
      Ephesians 2:4-5 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us,
      even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ
      —by grace you have been saved—
      There you go.
      Even when we were dead...God made us alive.
      That verse alone refutes you and proves that God saves unbelievers and makes them alive with Christ. It's right in your face, YTG. Yet, I expect you will squirm like a worm to get out and blame God for not writing the text exactly as you demand.
      If you deny this passage proves you wrong, you play the jester.

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      Quote Originally Posted by YourTruthGod View Post
      You didn't learn what you believe at a University?
      The beliefs you have are not in the scriptures.
      Give one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.
      No I was taught how to study not what to study or believe!
      All the beliefs that I hold can be found in and backed up with Scripture



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      Quote Originally Posted by RichWh1 View Post
      No I was taught how to study not what to study or believe!
      All the beliefs that I hold can be found in and backed up with Scripture



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      Then prove it to me and give the scripture that says God saves unbelievers.

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