Pelosi not for impeachment, saying Trump isn't worth it

NewCreation435 · Mar 11, 2019

"I'm not for impeachment," Pelosi said. "This is news. I'm going to give you some news right now because I haven't said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I've been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."

what do you think of her comments. I guess she is saying that impeaching him would further divide the country and it isn't worth it for that reason. But, I doubt it would divide it anymore than it already is. The present political environment is toxic. She says in the same article that

"The California Democrat also said that Trump is "ethically," "intellectually," and "curiosity-wise" unfit for office.
"No, I don't think he's fit to be President of the United States," she said"

Though I am not a registered democrat or republican, I would have to agree with her about that.

Albion · Mar 11, 2019

He was the choice of the voters; in this country the decision about the appropriateness of any candidate for the presidency is made by means of the election, not afterward. If you don't like him, you get another chance in four years.

So that aspect of the matter --how good a choice the voters made--is irrelevant. But the idea that Pelosi wants not to divide the country after her party has been doing nothing but dividing it since Nocvember of 2016 isn't likely to fool many people.

tango · Mar 11, 2019

jsimms435 said:
"I'm not for impeachment," Pelosi said. "This is news. I'm going to give you some news right now because I haven't said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I've been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."

what do you think of her comments. I guess she is saying that impeaching him would further divide the country and it isn't worth it for that reason. But, I doubt it would divide it anymore than it already is. The present political environment is toxic. She says in the same article that

"The California Democrat also said that Trump is "ethically," "intellectually," and "curiosity-wise" unfit for office.
"No, I don't think he's fit to be President of the United States," she said"

Though I am not a registered democrat or republican, I would have to agree with her about that.

Sounds to me like she came to realise there aren't grounds for impeachment. Either that or she just wants to shut down AOC and her silly rabbiting on about going after Trump.

psalms 91 · Mar 12, 2019

I think it would divide the country more and that she is right. As for no grounds I think that his actions and lies have provided grounds but I dont think it rises to the point he should be

tango · Mar 12, 2019

psalms 91 said:
I think it would divide the country more and that she is right. As for no grounds I think that his actions and lies have provided grounds but I dont think it rises to the point he should be

If things don't rise to the point that warrant impeachment that does rather mean there aren't grounds for impeachment, no?

Lamb · Mar 12, 2019

By saying she's not for impeachment she gains allies of some Republicans. I'm not sure if that's her goal or a by-product of her statement. She is up to something though

JRT · Mar 12, 2019

Albion said:
He was the choice of the voters; in this country the decision about the appropriateness of any candidate for the presidency is made by means of the election, not afterward. If you don't like him, you get another chance in four years.

So that aspect of the matter --how good a choice the voters made--is irrelevant. But the idea that Pelosi wants not to divide the country after her party has been doing nothing but dividing it since Nocvember of 2016 isn't likely to fool many people.

And the Republicans weren't doing this during President Obama's two terms in office?

Albion · Mar 12, 2019

tango said:
If things don't rise to the point that warrant impeachment that does rather mean there aren't grounds for impeachment, no?

Aside from the fact that every president could be accused of having told a lie (except George Washington??)...

Telling lies is not an impeachable offense, according to the Constitution.

We are in dangerous waters as a country when normal people get to thinking that any character fault or mistake or unpopular policy amount to grounds for impeachment; and I am afraid that the irresponsible comments by various Democratic officeholders and celebrities over the past several years have made a lot of Americans think that "I don't like him" constitutes grounds for impeachment.

Albion · Mar 12, 2019

JRT said:
And the Republicans weren't doing this during President Obama's two terms in office?

I'm willing to listen. What are you referring to? What facts support that notion?

Albion · Mar 12, 2019

Lämmchen said:
By saying she's not for impeachment she gains allies of some Republicans. I'm not sure if that's her goal or a by-product of her statement. She is up to something though

It could be that the suspicion is growing that not only are there no legitimate grounds for impeachment, and the Senate would never vote to convict, but time has just about run out for starting the proceedings. These things take time and the next presidential election campaign will be upon us in only one year. Imagine if the Democrats had to go into the next presidential election with nothing to run on but a futile, four year-long, attempt to impeach the president.

psalms 91 · Mar 12, 2019

tango said:
If things don't rise to the point that warrant impeachment that does rather mean there aren't grounds for impeachment, no?

By this I mean he could be but I dont think he should be at this point

tango · Mar 12, 2019

Albion said:
Aside from the fact that every president could be accused of having told a lie (except George Washington??)...

Telling lies is not an impeachable offense, according to the Constitution.

We are in dangerous waters as a country when normal people get to thinking that any character fault or mistake or unpopular policy amount to grounds for impeachment; and I am afraid that the irresponsible comments by various Democratic officeholders and celebrities over the past several years have made a lot of Americans think that "I don't like him" constitutes grounds for impeachment.

I've often wondered whether a lot of angst could be avoided if we simply held elections every few months, declared the winner, went from inauguration straight to impeachment and then started over.

tango · Mar 12, 2019

Lämmchen said:
By saying she's not for impeachment she gains allies of some Republicans. I'm not sure if that's her goal or a by-product of her statement. She is up to something though

She's a politician, of course she's up to something.

Maybe it's an attempt to focus on something other than relentlessly trying to impeach Trump without success (as someone already said it's not very impressive to go into the next election with nothing to report beyond "we tried, and failed, to impeach the president"). Maybe after endless investigations there's nothing sinister to report about this alleged Russian collusion and she wants to distance herself from it before it blows up in someone's face. Maybe she wants to hang Ocasio-Cortez out to dry and look to get rid of her and her ilk as soon as possible.

The claims about not wanting to divide the country seem bizarre, particularly from the party that seems to focus on what divides us more than anyone else. I don't see the Republicans endlessly talking about race, gender, orientation etc.

Josiah · Mar 12, 2019

jsimms435 said:
"I'm not for impeachment," Pelosi said. "This is news. I'm going to give you some news right now because I haven't said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I've been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."

what do you think of her comments. I guess she is saying that impeaching him would further divide the country and it isn't worth it for that reason. But, I doubt it would divide it anymore than it already is. The present political environment is toxic. She says in the same article that

"The California Democrat also said that Trump is "ethically," "intellectually," and "curiosity-wise" unfit for office.
"No, I don't think he's fit to be President of the United States," she said"

Though I am not a registered democrat or republican, I would have to agree with her about that.

Whatever her reason, I HOPE she is sincere and has no agenda to pursue that.

But I doubt it.

I suspect this is simply so that later she can claim (with record) that she didn't WANT to pursue this but had no choice.

The libs HATE Trump - with a passion. And it's intensely personal. And more, they HATE that he beat Hilary who's turn it was to be president and as a woman had the right to be president... and who is smart and right, yet she lost to an IDIOT, racist, sexist, stupid, unqualified embarrassing MAN put into the White House by trailer park white male trash. And it MUST be removed from office (and they can't wait until 2020).... MUST... because those racist, sexists, stupid, trailer-park men were WRONG to elect him (they should be dropped from the voting roles and replaced by illegal aliens who vote for Democrats). It MAY be that Pelosi doesn't exactly agree with those libs (she has her hands full with these new socialist/communist members taking over her party)... we'll see.

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tango · Mar 12, 2019

It is curious to think that the party who fielded the candidate who is probably the least liked candidate in history are still so surprised that she lost.

NewCreation435 · Mar 12, 2019

Lämmchen said:
By saying she's not for impeachment she gains allies of some Republicans. I'm not sure if that's her goal or a by-product of her statement. She is up to something though

I think she realizes that even if the House impeaches him the Senate won't, so it is a waste of time really

Lamb · Mar 12, 2019

jsimms435 said:
I think she realizes that even if the House impeaches him the Senate won't, so it is a waste of time really

That could be it. It's not worth the time because it wouldn't happen anyway.

Albion · Mar 12, 2019

jsimms435 said:
I think she realizes that even if the House impeaches him the Senate won't, so it is a waste of time really

Rush Limbaugh today was talking about Representative Adam Schiff also saying what Pelosi said about impeachment not being worth the trouble. Because Schiff has been just about the most determined, inflexible, proponent of impeachment up until this week and talked as though he was ready to go...for him to join in with Pelosi in backing down is quite something. The word has to be out among the Democrats that it cannot succeed and so is not worth pursuing. It probably also means that not only can it not succeed but the Democrats would look foolish and petty to pursue it in the face of a lack of evidence.

Josiah · Mar 12, 2019

Albion said:
Rush Limbaugh today was talking about Representative Adam Schiff also saying what Pelosi said about impeachment not being worth the trouble. Because Schiff has been just about the most determined, inflexible, proponent of impeachment up until this week and talked as though he was ready to go...for him to join in with Pelosi in backing down is quite something. The word has to be out among the Democrats that it cannot succeed and so is not worth pursuing. It probably also means that not only can it not succeed but the Democrats would look foolish and petty to pursue it in the face of a lack of evidence.

I didn't vote for Trump ... and I'm no fan of Trump... but it seems undeniable to me that there is a WITCH HUNT going on that makes Salem look kind. ALL this "investigation" and accusations... for well over 2 years now... and they have NOTHING. I don't believe (for a minute) they are giving up.... but it MAY be they realize nothing seems to be so obvious as to make impeachment AND REMOVAL (a whole other enchilada) likely. MAYBE (I hope) they are turning their attention to doing this the constitutional and democratic and American way - via the next election.

But I doubt it.

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Andrew · Mar 12, 2019

There are no grounds for impeachment just wishful thinking on the partisan left

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