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The first is Bishop Kyrill the Patriarch of Moscow in this interview on the topic of

The Hollowness of Modern Love...

Given this Christmas...

The designs on his vestments (hat and epaulets) are the six-winged Cherubim...


https://youtu.be/JyWKYpbg7B4


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I prefer the squared off hats like this one

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But the man wearing it looks rather grumpy :p
 

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I prefer the squared off hats like this one



But the man wearing it looks rather grumpy :p

Archbishop Demetrios of America does smile, that's probably his official photo and just coming off with a tone of more reverent :p

This is what the Patriarch of Moscow is wearing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koukoulion

What MoreCoffee posted of the Archbishop wearing is a Epanokalimavkion. I know, big words right? :D
 

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This one is to just turn on at med-low volume and leave it on as your soul-balm for 4 hours while you do other things...

No need to even understand the words...

The music speaks for itself...

https://youtu.be/IWsjcP445hc


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Who is he?

A Bishop from somewhere...

A Metropolitan perhaps?

Who knows what those eyes are seeing...

His is the monastic mitre...

The first is the Patriarchal Mitre...


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Just saw George's post - Archbishop Demetrios - Greeks are always questionable... :)
 

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And then there is the Epiclesis, the "Calling down upon" of the Holy Spirit upon the Bread and the Wine...

This one is Romanian and very beautiful...

https://youtu.be/92QfdG2HEUU


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And then there is the Epiclesis, the "Calling down upon" of the Holy Spirit upon the Bread and the Wine...

This one is Romanian and very beautiful...

https://youtu.be/92QfdG2HEUU


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This was absolutely beautiful and very powerful [emoji50]... Thanks for sharing that
 

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Catholic, rather than Orthodox, liturgy in English, like the one I participated in this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajNMAo5cGu4

Here there is a first epiclesis and a second.

The first is when the priest extends his hand palms down above the chalice and the paten invoking the Holy Spirit to come down and make Christ's body and blood present in the most holy sacrament.

The second epiclesis is when the priest invokes the Holy Spirit to bring the people, partaking of the body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ into unity under the Holy Spirit so that they may be - with Christ - one body with one spirit.
 

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This was absolutely beautiful and very powerful [emoji50]... Thanks for sharing that

I watched the same part of the Service that M/C provided, and the contrast is profound...

While in Romanian, so the words cannot be understood, I will see if I can find one in English...

This is the service we do at every Divine Liturgy, every Sunday, and in our parish three times a week...


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Catholic, rather than Orthodox, liturgy in English, like the one I participated in this morning.

Here there is a first epiclesis and a second.

The first is when the priest extends his hand palms down above the chalice and the paten invoking the Holy Spirit to come down and make Christ's body and blood present in the most holy sacrament.

The second epiclesis is when the priest invokes the Holy Spirit to bring the people, partaking of the body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ into unity under the Holy Spirit so that they may be - with Christ - one body with one spirit.

Take this, all of you, and eat it:
this is my body which will be given up for you.
Take this, all of you, and drink from it:
this is the cup of my blood,
the blood of the new and everlasting covenant.
It will be shed for you and for many
so that sins may be forgiven.
Do this in memory of me.

We use present tenses in the above...

Take...
Eat...
This is My Body
Which is Broken for you...
For the Remission of sins...


The contrast between the two Services illumines much...


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I wanted to tuck this post in here as well:
It is from another thread...
But is quintessentially an Orthodox teaching...
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I have a priest to whom I am eternally indebted, for he explained very clearly and consistently on the meaning of depression and great trials... And for that matter, even on those of somewhat lesser import. One person complained to him one day about what had happened that very morning...

"I was driving to Church with my 3 year old daughter strapped safely in the back seat when this MORON in a big VAN changed lanes right into MY lane and I had to swerve into the meridian in order to avoid a 70MPH accident on the freeway that could have killed us both. THEN, when I stopped leaning on my horn, he swerved at me again, and flipped me off, and was yelling obscenities at me... When I reached into the glove box to write down his license plate, he must have thought I was reaching for a gun, and he took off... I am still wanting to find him and straighten him out!!"

And this good Father asked him: "Well, you DO know what that incident MEANS, don't you??"

And he said: "Oh, God doubtless is trying to get my attention, I guess..."

To which the Priest replied: "It MEANS, my dear Brother...

It means, you see...

It means that, as you forgot...

As you forgot to do at the time...

It MEANS that NOW is the right time, you see...

It means that it is Time to Pray..."

So when it all goes south and despair and fear are your only companions...
There is a meaning to these companions...
They are angels of great Mercy...
For they are reminding you, you see...
That it is time to start praying...
Over and over this prayer to God:
"Oh Lord Jesus Christ...
Son of God...
Have Mercy on me...
The Sinner..."

And you can select another short prayer if you like...

And keep on saying it until you either fall asleep...
Or the messengers of Despair and Fear depart...

"Oh God be Gracious unto me a sinner...
And have Mercy on me..."

Is another one...

And remember, forgiving others is needed for you to receive God's forgiveness...

One prayer is not too few...

One hundred is not too many...


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Take this, all of you, and eat it:
this is my body which will be given up for you.
Take this, all of you, and drink from it:
this is the cup of my blood,
the blood of the new and everlasting covenant.
It will be shed for you and for many
so that sins may be forgiven.
Do this in memory of me.

We use present tenses in the above...

Take...
Eat...
This is My Body
Which is Broken for you...
For the Remission of sins...


The contrast between the two Services illumines much...


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explain, please :)
 

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Catholic, rather than Orthodox, liturgy in English, like the one I participated in this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajNMAo5cGu4

Here there is a first epiclesis and a second.

The first is when the priest extends his hand palms down above the chalice and the paten invoking the Holy Spirit to come down and make Christ's body and blood present in the most holy sacrament.

The second epiclesis is when the priest invokes the Holy Spirit to bring the people, partaking of the body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ into unity under the Holy Spirit so that they may be - with Christ - one body with one spirit.
Such a humble priestly man. I have never seen a cross like that before, I really like it! :)
 

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explain, please :)

We all become accustomed to a certain kind of "feel" for the Services in which we participate...
The feeling between these two enactments of the same Service is very different, wouldn't you say?
I have heard my Catholic brothers describe our services as very akin to the High Mass...
And the leavened vs unleavened bread is easily discerned...
The translation differences as well, present vs future tense verbs stood out...
Even the closeness of celebrants was a contrast - one a solo-feel, the other compacted...

The feeling of the two Services did not seem to cross-connect for me...
They just seemed like very different Services if one were to go by feel...


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How can we omit Meteora Monastery?
The quest for stillness seeks remote places of exceeding beauty...
Women Monastics pray and labor here in their quest for God...
It is turning into a popular tourist destination...
As the Nuns retreat to a more remote place to pray...


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I can never be Eastern Orthodox because I can't grow a beard.... just no significant facial hair.

That and I think I'm allergic to incense.
 

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I can never be Eastern Orthodox because I can't grow a beard....

just no significant facial hair.

That and I think I'm allergic to incense.

Benadryl and Central Casting and your are good to go!


Arsenios. :)
 

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I wonder if Zz top are Eastern Orthodox ;)
 

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I can never be Eastern Orthodox because I can't grow a beard.... just no significant facial hair.

That and I think I'm allergic to incense.

Serious question. Have your allergies reacted during an Orthodox service?
 
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