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  1. ValleyGal

    on abortion

    Tone definitely comes across in language. It was very apparent on the other thread in discussion with Tango. "medical procedure" "abort" "killed the baby" "murderer!" They all mean the same thing, but the last is disrespectful and condemning.
  2. ValleyGal

    on abortion

    It's the tone.
  3. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    People live according to what they believe. My auntie is a prime example. She did not believe her fetus was a life until after she became a believer and the Spirit convinced her otherwise. Notice the language? When the choice to abort is for a medical purpose, it's a "medical procedure to...
  4. ValleyGal

    on abortion

    It just feels like an atmosphere of condemnation if a mother chooses abortion. They don't have to answer to me. They have to answer to God. I value her right to choose as much as I value my own right to choose, even if that is a path of sin. But in conversations such as these we are having, it...
  5. ValleyGal

    on abortion

    I am not going to answer the whole post. I'm not interested in the abortion debate because I am not really pro-choice, per se. I simply am a realist who knows that women are going to choose abortion whether I agree or not, whether it's legal or not, whether it's safe or not. I certainly never...
  6. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    I have already stated that I would NEVER counsel someone to get an abortion, nor would I participate by escorting someone to one. Those I jobs I could never do. I could work in a place like Josiah describes, teaching relationship and life skills, parenting, etc. In fact, that's not much...
  7. ValleyGal

    on abortion

    Because IDay's thread keeps getting derailed with discussion on abortion, I am starting this thread for those who are not interested in discussing the language used around choice, abortion, murder, etc. However, it's a little different. Have at it here - I likely won't participate, but here is a...
  8. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    I don't know about where you live, but where I live, women are provided with impartial information on fetal development, the process and personal implications of abortion. They are assisted to make the choice, whether that is for or against. Personally, I could never do that job because of my...
  9. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    I don't support it for me. But for those who are going to choose it whether it's legal or not, they must have access to a sterile environment to reduce any harm that might come to them as a result. You're right - they have been misled by Satan, but what good is it if that person dies as a result...
  10. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    Do you intend to sound a little snarky here, or is it just my reading of this? Of course I'm not saying reality is nothing more than someone believes it to be. Seriously? You would assume I'm saying that? How sad. Our reality as believers is that God gives life, it is sin to deprive someone of...
  11. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    Did I say you were wrong? No. I'm not arguing here. I am trying to have a respectful discourse, not be confrontational. Hence why discourse is important. Pro-choice is limited to the mother's choice only. Is there a term that might be more inclusive of those who do not have a voice in the...
  12. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    Yes, WE listen to God's choice. Let me be clear: I am not pro-abortion. But in saying that, I must be clear that I am not anti-abortion. This is why discussion on language is so necessary. Because as believers, WE place ourselves under God's authority. But we cannot judge the world by Christian...
  13. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    Currently, the mother's. Of course it does. Who is going to consent to their own death, aside from those who choose suicide? And the legalities - yes, it's murder. I consider it murder as it applies to me and the decisions I make for me and any being inside of me. But for those who do not...
  14. ValleyGal

    What age did you feel happiest?

    I thoroughly enjoyed my 30s. My son was young, I was fit, free, and adventurous. I was in love for some of it - and I spent some of it in deep grief when he died. I had a job I loved, I felt like I had all the time in the world - meaning I could fit a lot into my days and had the energy to do it...
  15. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    This is the bottom line. I chose life when I had my son. But I will not force my choice on someone else because I value my own right to choose. I would be a hypocrite if I took away other people's right to choose. This is about the terminology. I am pro-life and chose life for my son...
  16. ValleyGal

    Pro-life

    It's not about abortion either. It's about the terminology surrounding life and abortion.
  17. ValleyGal

    Should Christians Care If We're Liked?

    Imo, the most effective way to spread the message of salvation on an individual level is through influence. If people don't like us, they will not accept our influence. I also believe this on a more global level. As a collective, if we act holier than thou, judgemental, unaccepting, try to...
  18. ValleyGal

    When was the last time you danced?

    People eat in bars? I think our bars are different then. We have pubs where people eat, they have music that gets louder as the evening goes on, and no dance floor. Our bars open at 8:00 pm and it's not about food. It's about the drinks and the dance floor - and the mechanical bull. lol. Party...
  19. ValleyGal

    When was the last time you danced?

    Ninety and going to the bar? Wow! I figured I'm too old almost pushing 60. lol. I have nothing in common with young people and no one to dance with. I'll be satisfied with walking until other opportunities come up. Loved dancing when I could, though!
  20. ValleyGal

    If could start own home-based business, what would it be?

    I think making crafts all year and selling them at Christmas markets would be fun, but certainly not as a business that would sustain me. I used to make aromatherapy blends for lotions, bath bombs, body butter, body sugars and massage oils. I had my own spa and did massages and foot care. Best...
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