What is the Church?

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That's a tangent and not really on the path of this conversation.
Jesus said I will know you by your fruits. Murdering thousands if not millions tells me a lot about Catholic and Protestant types.
 

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But if the Pope is infallible, how can it change?
Weather changes, days change too; it is the passage of time.

Popes are not infallible; Catholic Church teaching does not assert that popes are infallible.

You wrote that you had read a great deal. Why don't you know the facts about Catholic teaching? Have you not studied it?
 

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Weather changes, days change too; it is the passage of time.
But he must repent and apologize which being infallible I don't see happening.
 

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Popes are not infallible; Catholic Church teaching does not assert that popes are infallible.

You wrote that you had read a great deal. Why don't you know the facts about Catholic teaching? Have you not studied it?
But he must repent and apologize which being infallible I don't see happening.
You have much reading yet to do; you do not know what Catholic teaching contains.
 

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You have much reading yet to do; you do not know what Catholic teaching contains.
I know it's not biblical in any way or you could justify it with scripture.
 

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I know it's not biblical in any way or you could justify it with scripture.
You do not know what it is so you do not know enough to have an informed opinion about it.
 

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You do not know what it is so you do not know enough to have an informed opinion about it.
Jesus said you shall know them by their fruits. I know plenty. Anyone can look up your Church and know it is nowhere in scripture.
 

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Jesus said you shall know them by their fruits. I know plenty. Anyone can look up your Church and know it is nowhere in scripture.
It is evident from your written statements that you have not looked it up.
 

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It is evident from your written statements that you have not looked it up.
I study Reformed Theology, so I know what they say even to the point of the Pope being the antichrist.
 

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I study Reformed Theology, so I know what they say even to the point of the Pope being the antichrist.
Reformed theology is error. You're drawing from error and it dominates in your words. You teach error.
 
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Reformed theology is error. Your drawing from error and it dominates in your words. You teach error.
Most of it is, but the doctrines of sin and grace are perfectly stated. 1,2,3, points of Calvinism
 

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Most of it is, but the doctrines of sin and grace are perfectly stated.
You are not qualified to know what is perfect. You are bound by the limits of your own understanding. That is why you make so many errors.
 

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You are not qualified to know what is perfect. You are bound by the limits of your own understanding. That is why you make so many errors.
Scripture is perfect. So is any doctrine grounded in it.
 

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Scripture is perfect. So is any doctrine grounded in it.
You are not scripture. Besides, you redefine words to make scripture reflect your ideas. This thread is about the Church. You refuse the Church, shun it, disconnect yourself from it.
 

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You are not scripture. Besides, you redefine words to make scripture reflect your ideas. This thread is about the Church. You refuse the Church, shun it, disconnect yourself from it.
I use Greek dictionaries so what I say is always true.
 

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Infallible 1689Dave?
If you stick to the word and study many views before you settle down, you are on safe ground. Plus if you have true faith, it's because the word creates it. If faith is not present, I start over.
 
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