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In the first verse there is God or “Elohim” which is to say Creator and Judge. One might note that creation was made to accommodate the presence of life.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.



one might note that the Creator and Judge isn’t within His creation until His Spirit moves upon the face of the waters. Here is without a doubt within His creation choosing the waters for the place to accommodate the presence of life.

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Now here, in His Presence (He is Spirit according to Jesus) God speaks to His creation within His creation.

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.



So, there is Creator and Judge (who, and what the Lord God is) there is His Presence (Spirit in the case of the Almighty) and in His Presence He expresses Himself. Note that all living are what they are, have presence and express themselves in one fashion or another in their presence. Note that man is who he is, has presence, and speaks in his presence. Hence you are you, your presence is you, and your word spoken in your presence is you, to anyone else that is not you.

Now in the case of the Almighty He is the Most High God, so He is God, His Presence (Holy Spirit) is God, and His Word in His Presence is God to anything not God. All three have the power of God because One is not without the others. Therefore there is the Three that are One.



The trinity is further revealed to the chosen via God of Abraham the father, Isaac the beloved son who was offered, and Jacob who was renamed Israel of which God called the Hebrews the children of Israel during Moses’ day. Of which there was twelve that started the nation of people. Hence there is the Father and the Beloved Son who was offered that one may receive the Life through and the born again who are born of the Holy Spirit and therefore could be called children of that Spirit receiving the Life from the Son.
 

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Now here, in His Presence (He is Spirit according to Jesus) God speaks to His creation within His creation.

Now in the case of the Almighty He is the Most High God, so He is God, His Presence (Holy Spirit) is God, and His Word in His Presence is God to anything not God. All three have the power of God because One is not without the others. Therefore there is the Three that are One.
The doctrine of the Trinity does not hold that God is three somethings or three forces or characteristics of God, or manifestations, etc.

You affirmed in your profile that you believe the Nicene Creed. Take a look at it again and see that it does not describe the three persona of God in the way you have theorized.
 

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The doctrine of the Trinity does not hold that God is three somethings or three forces or characteristics of God, or manifestations, etc.

You affirmed in your profile that you believe the Nicene Creed. Take a look at it again and see that it does not describe the three persona of God in the way you have theorized.
maybe you should read the creed

in one God,
the Father Almighty,
Lord Jesus Christ,
by the Holy Spirit

Which affirms a belief in the three

But the particulars are scripture and the creed does not supersede scripture.

again spotting what you don't know.
 

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maybe you should read the creed

in one God,
the Father Almighty,
Lord Jesus Christ,
by the Holy Spirit

Which affirms a belief in the three
Apparently, you cannot answer to the point that's before you--"belief In the three" which are what? Numerous heresies were condemned in the early church because all sorts of people agreed that there are three...something; but they didn't know what the three ARE, just that they accepted that there are three.
 

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Lamb could you point out the problem with this as the trinity is three in one and one in three is it not? God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit?
 
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