Can demons be saved if they repent?

Lucian Hodoboc · Mar 2, 2019

Can any demons (ex-angels who followed Satan) be forgiven and saved if they repent and ask God for forgiveness? Does any doctrine about this issue exist? Also, what would happen if a demon would turn against Satan and decide that (s)he no longer wants to follow him? If God wouldn't redeem him/her, would (s)he just be stuck as a rebellious demon who doesn't obey Satan for eternity?

NewCreation435 · Mar 2, 2019

the promises of God are not for angels or demons. so the answer to this is no

Lucian Hodoboc · Mar 2, 2019

Why not?

Josiah · Mar 2, 2019

jsimms435 said:
the promises of God are not for angels or demons. so the answer to this is no

Agreed.... And of course, no one repents or believes unless God so causes. And there's no need for that for the angels (who never fell) and no extension of that to the demons.

That's my perspective...

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Andrew · Mar 2, 2019

Lucian Hodoboc said:
Why not?

The demons would rather flee into the body of swine and kill themselves then face Christ, so no they can't nor would they ever repent

Lamb · Mar 2, 2019

Jesus is the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Demons are not of this world so they were not included in the Gospel promise.

psalms 91 · Mar 2, 2019

Lucian Hodoboc · Mar 2, 2019

Andrew said:
The demons would rather flee into the body of swine and kill themselves then face Christ, so no they can't nor would they ever repent

Some. Many. Perhaps, most. I'm talking about exceptions. If one or a few demons realized that they have made a mistake by following Satan and repented, what would happen to them?

MennoSota · Mar 2, 2019

Lucian Hodoboc said:
Some. Many. Perhaps, most. I'm talking about exceptions. If one or a few demons realized that they have made a mistake by following Satan and repented, what would happen to them?

God has chosen not to extend grace to fallen angels. Only sure judgment remains.
God's choice to extend grace to humans is something that perplexes the angels, both obedient and fallen. It no doubt surprised and infuriated the serpent that God would redeem mankind. I'm sure the serpent thought he had won a great victory over God in the garden of Eden (as he thought the same in the garden of Gethsemane). But, God did the unexpected. God extended grace to those whom He willed to extend grace. God, after all, is the Sovereign King over all Creation and no one tells Him what He can or cannot do.

Lucian Hodoboc · Mar 3, 2019

MennoSota said:
God has chosen not to extend grace to fallen angels. Only sure judgment remains.

How do you know this? May I have scriptural quotes to support the idea, please?

MennoSota · Mar 3, 2019

Lucian Hodoboc said:
How do you know this? May I have scriptural quotes to support the idea, please?

1 Peter 1:10-12
Concerning this salvation,
the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories. It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you, in the things that have now been announced to you through those who preached the good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven,
things into which angels long to look.

Arsenios · Mar 3, 2019

The Church teaches that demons are now incapable of repentance...

To which I might add that if you do not repent now...

You will also at some grave point...

_______________________ (fill in the blank)

Arsenios

MennoSota · Mar 3, 2019

Arsenios said:
The Church teaches that demons are now incapable of repentance...

To which I might add that if you do not repent now...

You will also at some grave point...

_______________________ (fill in the blank)

Arsenios

Does this mean your salvation is lost everytime you sin, Arsenios?

Arsenios · Mar 3, 2019

MennoSota said:
Does this mean your salvation is lost everytime you sin, Arsenios?

Only if I do not repent of it...

That is the problem with suicide - No repentance...

Arsenios

MennoSota · Mar 3, 2019

Arsenios said:
Only if I do not repent of it...

That is the problem with suicide - No repentance...

Arsenios

So every sin you commit that goes unrepented will remove your salvation from you?

psalms 91 · Mar 4, 2019

One sin no but if you continue to willfully sin then Gods spirit at some point will depart the temple never to return, we are the temple and without Gods spirit how can there be salvation?

Wilhemena · Mar 4, 2019

God already has a plan in place for the devil and his angels and if there had been a chance for redemption for them God surely would have foreplanned a way of salvation unto them.

Matthew 25:41 New International Version (NIV)

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Arsenios · Mar 4, 2019

MennoSota said:
So every sin you commit that goes unrepented will remove your salvation from you?

Of course, because if you do not turn from a sin, you continue in it...

If you do a sin but once, and never again, it is repented...

But I can tell you this:

IF you decide to commit a sin, and then actually DO commit that sin, then IF you have the Holy Spirit working in you, that Spirit will depart from you, and it will be palpable and apparent and obvious - It will be spiritually catastrophic... It happened to Judas, and he committed suicide... It happened to Peter, and he fell into exceeding bitter sadness, and returned to Christ and was restored to his Apostleship which he had lost by thrice denying Christ... Judas, otoh, took matters into his own hands, and was destroyed... He did not come to Christ in repentance, in agony of soul... And what about Ananias and Sapphira?

Deliberate sin is soul destroying, recoverable by repentance, except suicide...

Arsenios

MennoSota · Mar 4, 2019

Arsenios said:
Of course, because if you do not turn from a sin, you continue in it...

If you do a sin but once, and never again, it is repented...

But I can tell you this:

IF you decide to commit a sin, and then actually DO commit that sin, then IF you have the Holy Spirit working in you, that Spirit will depart from you, and it will be palpable and apparent and obvious - It will be spiritually catastrophic... It happened to Judas, and he committed suicide... It happened to Peter, and he fell into exceeding bitter sadness, and returned to Christ and was restored to his Apostleship which he had lost by thrice denying Christ... Judas, otoh, took matters into his own hands, and was destroyed... He did not come to Christ in repentance, in agony of soul... And what about Ananias and Sapphire?

Deliberate sin is soul destroying, recoverable by repentance, except suicide...

Arsenios

Arsenios, you have described salvation by merit, apart from grace. This makes me sad for you and others who might follow you. You display the same attitude that Martin Luther had while being an unreconciled monk. He beat himself up until he understood justification by faith alone.

psalms 91 · Mar 4, 2019

Arsenios said:
Of course, because if you do not turn from a sin, you continue in it...

If you do a sin but once, and never again, it is repented...

But I can tell you this:

IF you decide to commit a sin, and then actually DO commit that sin, then IF you have the Holy Spirit working in you, that Spirit will depart from you, and it will be palpable and apparent and obvious - It will be spiritually catastrophic... It happened to Judas, and he committed suicide... It happened to Peter, and he fell into exceeding bitter sadness, and returned to Christ and was restored to his Apostleship which he had lost by thrice denying Christ... Judas, otoh, took matters into his own hands, and was destroyed... He did not come to Christ in repentance, in agony of soul... And what about Ananias and Sapphire?

Deliberate sin is soul destroying, recoverable by repentance, except suicide...

Arsenios

Contrary to what other say you are right on

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