Are Christians obligated to keep the Sabbath?

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RichWh1,
re: "Christians do not keep the Sabbath, which is part of the Law of Moses."

Actually, it is part of the law of the Supreme Being; the same law that says: do not murder, do not steal, do not commit adultery, etc.
 
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RichWh1,
re: "Christians do not keep the Sabbath, which is part of the Law of Moses."

Actually, it is part of the law of the Supreme Being; the same law that says: do not murder, do not steal, do not commit adultery, etc.
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Gentiles, whether Christian or not, were never under the Law. The Law was given to Israel.

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves,
Romans 2:14 NASB



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RichWh1 said:
Gentiles, whether Christian or not, were never under the Law. The Law was given to Israel.

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves,
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I am curious, are we not grafted in? If so then are we not under the Law by adoption? Also I believe it says somewhere that all will be judged, if all are to be judged then by what?
 
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I am curious, are we not grafted in? If so then are we not under the Law by adoption? Also I believe it says somewhere that all will be judged, if all are to be judged then by what?
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Gentiles were never under the constraints of the Law. The Law was given to Israel for a guide -the Law convinces us that we are sinners (for by the Law comes the knowledge of sin )

We are grafted in as the elect of God just as Israel is the elect of God.

Each of us will be judged according to our works, not according to the Law.

Paul also wrote that those who are under the Law will be judged by the Law and those who do not have the Law will be judged apart from the Law.
Romans 2:12-13



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RichWh1,

With regard to Gentiles, are you saying that the phrase "...not having the Law..."means that the shalls and shall nots in the Law do not apply to them?
 
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RichWh1 said:
Gentiles were never under the constraints of the Law. The Law was given to Israel for a guide -the Law convinces us that we are sinners (for by the Law comes the knowledge of sin )

We are grafted in as the elect of God just as Israel is the elect of God.

Each of us will be judged according to our works, not according to the Law.

Paul also wrote that those who are under the Law will be judged by the Law and those who do not have the Law will be judged apart from the Law.
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I think scripture makes clear that those who are in the spirit are not under the Law but those who are carnal are and I dont know about you but what i see is a lot of Christians that are carnal and worldly and therefore under the Law.
 
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RichWh1,

With regard to Gentiles, are you saying that the phrase "...not having the Law..."means that the shalls and shall nots in the Law do not apply to them?
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No. Gentile Christians have the Law written on their hearts.
They know right from wrong because the Spirit indwells them.

Read Romans 2:12

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No. Gentile Christians have the Law written on their hearts.
They know right from wrong because the Spirit indwells them.

Read Romans 2:12

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You mean the same spirit that some denoms dont even accept as for today and the ones that are blind and deaf to it? You mean those because that is the majority of Christians today
 
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I am curious, are we not grafted in? If so then are we not under the Law by adoption? Also I believe it says somewhere that all will be judged, if all are to be judged then by what?
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If we are under the Law by adoption should we avoid eating shellfish, wearing clothes of mixed fibers, eating meat with the blood still in it, shaving the edges of our beards etc? Should we put women aside during their monthly cycle and regard anything they sit on during that time as unclean? Should we stone children who disrespect their parents?
 
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You mean the same spirit that some denoms dont even accept as for today and the ones that are blind and deaf to it? You mean those because that is the majority of Christians today
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No! Demons do not have the Holy Spirit, which is the one I was referring to!
No demon would or could accept the Holy Spirit so your question is non séquitor


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No! Demons do not have the Holy Spirit, which is the one I was referring to!
No demon would or could accept the Holy Spirit so your question is non séquitor


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Actually it is not, most Christians today are deaf and blind to the spirit and some denoms will tell it isnt for today . Yes there are those who follow the Way and are led by the spirit and for them there is no Law as for the rest
 
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Which spirit are you referring to?


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RichWh1 said:
Which spirit are you referring to?


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I am talking the Holy Spirit, whatis being discussed in this thread I think
 
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No! Demons do not have the Holy Spirit, which is the one I was referring to!
No demon would or could accept the Holy Spirit so your question is non séquitor


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I guess you didn't read the post you replied to. There's quite a difference between a "denom" (short for "denomination") and a "demon".
 
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I guess you didn't read the post you replied to. There's quite a difference between a "denom" (short for "denomination") and a "demon".
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Oh! Sorry about that.
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You mean the same spirit that some denoms dont even accept as for today and the ones that are blind and deaf to it? You mean those because that is the majority of Christians today
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There are many people who attend church service who are not Christians. The Christian possesses the Holy Spirit and a member of a denomination may not

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RichWh1,
re: "No."

So the shalls and the shall nots do apply to them, i.e., the 10 Commandments. So the answer to the OP is yes.
 
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re: "No."

So the shalls and the shall nots do apply to them, i.e., the 10 Commandments. So the answer to the OP is yes.
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Huh? You’re not making sense.


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RichWh1,
re: "You're not making sense."

In my post #65 I asked you: "With regard to Gentiles, are you saying that the phrase '...not having the Law...'means that the shalls and shall nots in the Law do not apply to them?"

In your post #67 you said "No. Gentile Christians have the Law written on their hearts". I took that to mean that you were saying that the shalls and shall nots actually do apply to them.
 
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Depends, those who walk in the spirit against such there is no law but how about those who dont walk in the spirit? Also that verse says we have the law written on our hearts, why would that be if it doesnt apply?
 
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