• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Embarrassed
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Grumpy
  • Happy
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
    Results 1 to 10 of 27

    Christian Theology - Thread: Titles Used by Clergymen.

    1. #1
      Albion's Avatar
      Albion is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Posts
      2,554
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      13,019
      CH Challenge
      298
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      17,879
      Level
      38
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      1.93%
      Rep Power
      540

      Titles Used by Clergymen.

      This seems minor, but I know of some hard feelings in congregations over how the clergy want to be addressed.

      The choices are many, from Mister to Reverend to Father to Doctor to Bishop, and even Apostle. That last one seems to be gaining favor in some churches. However, there are some who prefer just their own first name. What do you think about this matter and why so?

    2. #2
      MoreCoffee's Avatar
      MoreCoffee is offline Gold Member
      Girding loins for the battle.
       
      Mood:
      Awesome
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      16,181
      CH Cash
      20,553
      CH Challenge
      695
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      43,633
      Level
      54
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      25.74%
      Rep Power
      681
      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      This seems minor, but I know of some hard feelings in congregations over how the clergy want to be addressed.

      The choices are many, from Mister to Reverend to Father to Doctor to Bishop, and even Apostle. That last one seems to be gaining favor in some churches. However, there are some who prefer just their own first name. What do you think about this matter and why so?
      I'd prefer that no title be used except perhaps "brother" and that ought to be used of all one's Christian brothers and "sister" for one's Christian sisters. But on the whole first names seem best for informal occasions. If a title is needed/wanted to denote one's training and education then "Doctor" might suffice if one's pastor/priest has a doctorate in theology or something else.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

    3. #3
      Albion's Avatar
      Albion is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Posts
      2,554
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      13,019
      CH Challenge
      298
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      17,879
      Level
      38
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      1.93%
      Rep Power
      540
      Does anyone in your parish call the priest/pastor "Tom" when speaking to him?

    4. #4
      Josiah's Avatar
      Josiah is offline Bronze Member
      Supporting Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      6,772
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      117,193
      CH Challenge
      270
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      69,586
      Level
      64
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      66.35%
      Rep Power
      905
      Our clergyman goes by "Pastor"

      I understand in Europe, Lutheran clergy are typically referred to as "Father" (in whatever language is spoken there).

      In the USA, "Reverend" seems very popular. "Minister" is used a lot, too. But probably "pastor" is most common. In my Catholic parish, we used the terms "Father" and "Pastor".



      .
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

    5. #5
      Lämmchen's Avatar
      Lämmchen is offline God's Lil Lamb
      Administrator
      Supporting Member
      Community Team
      Married
      Gloria In Excelsis Deo
       
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      16,122
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      200,544
      CH Challenge
      83
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (165,167 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      193,632
      Level
      92
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      6.64%
      Rep Power
      829
      All my communications with my pastor start off with, "Pastor". My previous pastor was also "Pastor". The one before that had a transition phase where he was the senior pastor and right before his retirement we had another one there...so I used their last names after "Pastor"

      I've never liked calling ministers "Father" like they do in the Catholic churches I've gone to. It's awkward.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

    6. #6
      Albion's Avatar
      Albion is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Posts
      2,554
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      13,019
      CH Challenge
      298
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      17,879
      Level
      38
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      1.93%
      Rep Power
      540
      As a side note, does anyone think there's any other issue involved with this--that one or another title is actually correct or properly respectful or historically accurate or anything other than just a matter of preference?

    7. #7
      Albion's Avatar
      Albion is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Posts
      2,554
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      13,019
      CH Challenge
      298
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      17,879
      Level
      38
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      1.93%
      Rep Power
      540
      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      All my communications with my pastor start off with, "Pastor". My previous pastor was also "Pastor". The one before that had a transition phase where he was the senior pastor and right before his retirement we had another one there...so I used their last names after "Pastor"

      I've never liked calling ministers "Father" like they do in the Catholic churches I've gone to. It's awkward.
      Pastor seems very standard among Lutherans. The only time I ever heard a Lutheran pastor called Father it was somewhat of an inside joke. However, I don't doubt that it might be different in Europe.

    8. #8
      Lämmchen's Avatar
      Lämmchen is offline God's Lil Lamb
      Administrator
      Supporting Member
      Community Team
      Married
      Gloria In Excelsis Deo
       
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      16,122
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      200,544
      CH Challenge
      83
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (165,167 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      193,632
      Level
      92
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      6.64%
      Rep Power
      829
      I think it's more of what we're used to.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

    9. #9
      MoreCoffee's Avatar
      MoreCoffee is offline Gold Member
      Girding loins for the battle.
       
      Mood:
      Awesome
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      16,181
      CH Cash
      20,553
      CH Challenge
      695
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      43,633
      Level
      54
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      25.74%
      Rep Power
      681
      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      Does anyone in your parish call the priest/pastor "Tom" when speaking to him?
      No, they call him "Joe" and his assistant is also called by his Christian name. Some prefix "Father" many do not.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

    10. #10
      Josiah's Avatar
      Josiah is offline Bronze Member
      Supporting Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      6,772
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      117,193
      CH Challenge
      270
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      69,586
      Level
      64
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      66.35%
      Rep Power
      905
      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I think it's more of what we're used to.

      I think it's mostly cultural.....


      "Father" and "Pastor" both carry the idea of leadership and caring....

      "Reverend" carries the idea of worthy of respect, which because of the office, seems appropriate (although I've always seen this as a bit egotistical, lol)

      I'm not sure it matters. I KNOW it's increasingly common (at least around here) to simply refer to the person by their first name. Informality is a part of American culture (especially in California). I'm okay with that IF the clergyperson is... but it "rubs" me wrong: I was raised to respect people. I never referred to my teachers and profs by their first names (even if I know that was okay), they were "Mr." or "Dr" or "Professor." I was just raised that way....
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •