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    Denomination & Faith Movement Discussions - Thread: Was Luther Insane?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Posting the salient points is informative for all who read with the aim of being informed.

      God bless you, MennoSota.
      There are no salient points, MC. All there is is muddled points...that's my point.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      Luther was passionate.

      That's not the same as insane.
      Many who are in a manic state can be quite passionate emotionally about many things (or a depressive or anxious state as well). As I said, I wouldn't doubt that Luther would qualify for some type of "disorder" as it were, should we have had him as a specimen today.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      Many who are in a manic state can be quite passionate emotionally about many things (or a depressive or anxious state as well). As I said, I wouldn't doubt that Luther would qualify for some type of "disorder" as it were, should we have had him as a specimen today.
      If being passionate equals being insane, then it would seem Jesus was insane.
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      If being passionate equals being insane, then it would seem Jesus was insane.
      Quote Originally Posted by "Mark 3:21 (NASB)
      When His own people heard of this, they went out to take custody of Him; for they were saying, “He has lost His senses."
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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      I don't make the rules
      It doesn't really matter if Martin Luther was insane.

      His theology is kind of crazy.

      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      It doesn't really matter if Martin Luther was insane.

      His theology is kind of crazy.

      SIN BOLDLY!!!
      Lutheran.jpg
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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      SIN BOLDLY!!!
      Lutheran.jpg
      Proof that the theology is kind of crazy.

      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Proof that the theology is kind of crazy.

      Or proof you don't know what he meant by the phrase?
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Or proof you don't know what he meant by the phrase?
      I do not claim to know what Martin Luther may have meant by the words Sin Boldly but it strikes me as bad theology and bad pastoral practise to advise people to sin.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      I do not claim to know what Martin Luther may have meant by the words Sin Boldly but it strikes me as bad theology and bad pastoral practise to advise people to sin.
      What Luther meant was that as sinful humans...we'll sin. Even though try as we might to not sin, we will sin. So live your life, not in constant fear that you'll sin in some way, but that you're a child of God, forgiven by Jesus' death. Luther spent way too many years in fear that the Lord would not forgive his sins. His epiphany that our sins were forgiven at the cross gave him much peace.

      So, in short, Luther wasn't say to go out and sin.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
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