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    Denomination & Faith Movement Discussions - Thread: Was Luther Insane?

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      Maybe this'll help:

      "If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world."

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      So no-one's really addressed the OP. I've given an opinion on it. Any takers?
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      Dr. Luther was most certainly not mad. Of course, I'm pretty sure that Pope Leo X and Albrecht of Mainz weren't playing with a full deck and Johann Eck? Well, eck.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      What Luther meant was that as sinful humans...we'll sin. Even though try as we might to not sin, we will sin. So live your life, not in constant fear that you'll sin in some way, but that you're a child of God, forgiven by Jesus' death. Luther spent way too many years in fear that the Lord would not forgive his sins. His epiphany that our sins were forgiven at the cross gave him much peace.

      So, in short, Luther wasn't say to go out and sin.
      It is a hellish epiphany to advise people to sin boldly. More a "revelation" from Satan than one from God.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Confessional Lutheran View Post
      Dr. Luther was most certainly not mad. Of course, I'm pretty sure that Pope Leo X and Albrecht of Mainz weren't playing with a full deck and Johann Eck? Well, eck.
      There ought to be a "boo" option for posts

      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      Maybe this'll help:

      "If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world."

      https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Luther
      Too clever by half, as a Brit might say, such advice is wicked not good. It does not make Martin Luther insane to give it all it does is make his theological and pastoral advice bad.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      So no-one's really addressed the OP. I've given an opinion on it. Any takers?
      I thought I did address the first post when I observed that Martin Luther's sanity (or lack of it) was not relevant. What matters is if his theology is true or false.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      We all got a little bit o crazy in us and Luther showed that even God can work with someone who isn't a great example of what a Christian should be saying at times.
      If you want to rile people up then go to a Christian site and give God ALL the glory for your salvation.

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      MoreCoffee (Post #26):

      There ought to be a "boo" option for posts
      How about a “boo-hoo” option, as well?


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