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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: The name Allah

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      The name Allah

      Why do western Christians reject the word 'Allah'?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wilhemena View Post
      Why do western Christians reject the word 'Allah'?
      It's ain't particularly the name that bothers Christians it's the idea that it's not the one true God as Allah doesn't stand for our trinitarian God at all and doesn't profess Jesus as the true savior now that's a very good reason to suspect that word.
      If you want to rile people up then go to a Christian site and give God ALL the glory for your salvation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wilhemena View Post
      Why do western Christians reject the word 'Allah'?
      Because 'Allah' represents a man made deity with man made laws and man made ideas. The Quran has also been debunked and proven to be comprised of mistranslations and early gnostic stories such as the nativity birth (speaking baby Jesus /in "cradle") and making living birds out of clay as a child...

      Example:
      In the Bible Genesis 15, we're told that God called Abraham out of "Ur of the Chaldeans". In Babylonian language, "Ur", just means city. But in the first century, Jewish Rabbi named Jonathan Ben Uziel was translating Genesis 15 into Aramaic. He came across the word "Ur", now Jonathan did not know Babylonian so he confused the Babylonian word "Ur", which means "city" with the Hebrew word "Ur", which means "fire". This caused him to mistranslate the passage. Instead of saying that God delivered Abraham out of "Ur, city of the Chaldeans", Jonathan's mistranslation said that God delivered Abraham out of "the fire of the Chaldeans". Now why is this important? Well, Jewish writers ran with this idea of Abraham escaping from the fire and soon the Talmud contained all kinds of stories of Abraham being thrown into the fire by the Chaldeans and being miraculously rescued by God and these stories were quite popular in Arabia during the time of Muhammad among the Jews living there. And this is crucial because in Surah 21 we read about Abraham being delivered from the fire. Now Muhammad claimed that he was getting this story from God, but we know from history that this entire idea of Abraham being delivered from a fire was based on a mistranslation. So what makes more sense here? That God also mistranslated the word "Ur"? Or that Muhammad was getting his information from the people around him?

      https://www.answering-islam.org/Resp...abraham_ur.htm

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      The God of Islam does not display the same attributes as the God of the Bible.
      This can be said of many cults as well, such as the Church of God, Jehovah's Witness, Mormons, Bahai, Hebrew Roots, etc.
      When cross referenced with the God of the Bible it becomes easy to see that the Allah worshipped by Muslims is not the God worshipped by Christians. Muhammad recognized this and brutally oppressed Christianity in North Africa.

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      The term Allah is most commonly associated with the religion of Islam and even if translated to mean God, it still has a negative connotation to anyone that is not Muslim.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Romanos View Post
      The term Allah is most commonly associated with the religion of Islam and even if translated to mean God, it still has a negative connotation to anyone that is not Muslim.
      The full translation would be "The God" so while we have "God" they have "The God", trying to on up our God...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wilhemena View Post
      Why do western Christians reject the word 'Allah'?
      I'm thinking because of all the negative things heard about those who worship him. There are many good Muslim people who are nonviolent, too, that add a great deal of good things to this world, too. It's too bad so many have have killed in the name of Allah. It's natural for people to generalize their feelings towards the few to the many but it's still not a good thing to do. People need to have love for the Muslim world, too.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ruth View Post
      I'm thinking because of all the negative things heard about those who worship him. There are many good Muslim people who are nonviolent, too, that add a great deal of good things to this world, too. It's too bad so many have have killed in the name of Allah. It's natural for people to generalize their feelings towards the few to the many but it's still not a good thing to do. People need to have love for the Muslim world, too.
      Perhaps on a sociological level the term Allah is viewed negatively. In a strict comparison of attributes the God Muslims worship is not the God Christians worship.
      As to self-righteousness, there are self-righteous people in nearly every religion who discipline themselves to follow the golden rule. This has nothing to do with God, however.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Perhaps on a sociological level the term Allah is viewed negatively. In a strict comparison of attributes the God Muslims worship is not the God Christians worship.
      As to self-righteousness, there are self-righteous people in nearly every religion who discipline themselves to follow the golden rule. This has nothing to do with God, however.
      No, it is not the same God. I think it is interesting to look at other religions and Gods as well as cultures.

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