A warmer world is a better world.

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Just remember in winter, when climate change is under discussion, that you can proudly say A warmer world is a better world.

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I look forward to Autumn when I wake up and there is a chill in the air :)
 

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Just remember in winter, when climate change is under discussion, that you can proudly say A warmer world is a better world.

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Tell that to the people in California whose homes have burned to the ground by the hundreds.
 

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Tell that to the people in California whose homes have burned to the ground by the hundreds.

Do you think that the fires in California are caused by climate change or by arson?
 

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Do you think that the fires in California are caused by climate change or by arson?

I don't have any research to back this up at the moment, but my guess is that it has to do with climate change. The drought that California has experienced on and off for the last 30 plus years is a main factor in the fires and how easy it is for them to get started.
 

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The Climate Change bug-a-boo is beginning to take on proportions similar to The Jews did it! or Satan did it!, which were taken as undeniably true statements by other people in earlier times.
 

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I imagine that Calfironia along with much of the northern hemisphere is undergoing something of a warm period and some droughts but here where I live the rainfall is above average and it was last year too though the summer was warmer than usual yet with fewer scorchingly hot days.

Personally I'd like it to be a little warmer in winter and cooler in summer. Maybe something like 15c to 23c in winter and 20c to 25c in summer with most summer days in the 20s or low 30s.
 

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I don't have any research to back this up at the moment, but my guess is that it has to do with climate change. The drought that California has experienced on and off for the last 30 plus years is a main factor in the fires and how easy it is for them to get started.


So is the claim..... however, the same guys will tell you that in the past several thousand years, there have been FAR more extreme droughts - some lasting for nearly 200 years (we hear this all the time from the "WE NEED TO IMPORT MORE WATER" folks). The kind of droughts we've had in the past century are evidently nothin' special or unusual. BUT I can tell you - in HUMAN time (a typical human lifespan), I cannot remember it being hot for SO LONG as this summer, the "heat wave" is just going on and on and on and on..... Again, I can't say this is actually "new" but then I don't go back very far.

Of course, there are long term changes.... for the past 10,000 years, since the last ice age, California slowly has been getting dryer and warmer. 10,000 years ago, where I live was pine forest... it's desert now. But this has been a SLOW change over 10,000 years, and supposedly is soon to reverse as the prediction is, the ice age is coming back (although still thousands of years in the future).
 

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I don't really buy the whole climate change thing. It's little more than an attempt to guilt people into agreeing to more taxes when the people who push it the hardest seem to do the least to reduce their own carbon output. People who bleat about carbon emissions can't be taken seriously unless they live like the Amish. You know, these emissions that are the greatest threat to mankind since, well, ever and yet they hop in their SUV to go to work and belch out a few more of them as they do. Because, you know, you gotta keep up with the Joneses, right? Never mind the untold numbers of impoverished people with brown skin who will die because of yet another crop failure.

Throw in the fact that just about every observation imaginable is apparently evidence of climate change and there seem to be no possible observations that would lead to the conclusion climate change is not real and it's even harder to take it seriously.
 

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