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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Basilica Block Party

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Do you feel condemned, MC?
      That's an odd question to be asking.

      What I feel at the moment is a desire to chat elsewhere.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Frankly, Beer Gardens and Bingo are almost synonymous with Catholic fairs - and I don't mean that as a jab - it just is. Every year in Michigan the local Catholic college would have a week-long fair (rides and such - great fun), and the beer garden and Bingo were expected. If one wanted to attend, they attended. If one didn't, they didn't. I was more worried about getting stuck upside-down on those cheap rides than the beer garden.
      it's just strange that some Christians attend concerts (even festivals) and occasionally drink, but attach "Catholic" or (insert denom. here ____) and we're up in arms.
      Last edited by ImaginaryDay2; 07-08-2018 at 11:39 AM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      Frankly, Beer Gardens and Bingo are almost synonymous with Catholic fairs - and I don't mean that as a jab - it just is. Every year in Michigan the local Catholic college would have a week-long fair (rides and such - great fun), and the beer garden and Bingo were expected. If one wanted to attend, they attended. If one didn't, they didn't. I was more worried about getting stuck upside-down on those cheap rides than the beer garden.
      it's just strange that some Christians attend concerts (even festivals) and occasionally drink, but attach "Catholic" or (insert denom. here ____) and we're up in arms.
      Hypocritical prudery is very common. I don't see what good it does. In this case it is just a little piece of point scoring suitable for a mean spirited game of trivial pursuit.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Judge not, lest ye be judged is one of the top misinterpreted verses.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Judge not, lest ye be judged is one of the top misinterpreted verses.
      Yes, perhaps "Judge not, lest ye be judged is one of the top misinterpreted verses." may be true. One example of misinterpretation would be reading "another person's salvation" into it. But the passage that I quoted says, 37 Don’t be a judge of others and you will not be judged; do not condemn and you will not be condemned; forgive and you will be forgiven; 38 give and it will be given to you, and you will receive in your sack good measure, pressed down, full and running over. For the measure you give will be the measure you receive back.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      One thing it doesnt mean is not to judge. Paul exhorted us to judge matters within the church that is proper judgement but to judge anothers actions without fully knowing or going on hearsay is obviously not the judging we are supposed to do.
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      One thing it doesnt mean is not to judge. Paul exhorted us to judge matters within the church that is proper judgement but to judge anothers actions without fully knowing or going on hearsay is obviously not the judging we are supposed to do.
      Very true brother psalms 91 and I think it also means not to judge one whom God has commended for her action in saving the spies because God does not judge with condemnation her action in saving the spies instead he commends it. Rahab was also a prostitute and without a doubt she sinned in prostituting herself, yet God saved her so whatever weight of sin may have been on her shoulders it was not one that God could not lift. And her lie to the men who wanted to kill the spies is not condemned as a sin by God it is named a sin by some folk living in our own times for reasons of their own but not with justification from the holy scriptures. Rahab is not called a liar nor is her lie called a sin by God and when it comes to judging God is the only one with the necessary qualifications to say what is a sin and what is not.
      Last edited by MoreCoffee; 07-09-2018 at 10:53 AM.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Rahab was also a prostitute and without a doubt she sinned in prostituting herself,
      yet God saved her so whatever weight of sin may have been on her shoulders
      it was not one that God could not lift.
      Her spirit reappears in Luke:

      Luk 7:47
      Wherefore I say unto thee,
      Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much:
      but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

      Luk 7:48 And he said unto her,
      "Thy sins are forgiven."



      And her lie to the men who wanted to kill the spies is not condemned as a sin by God it is named a sin by some folk living in our own times for reasons of their own but not with justification from the holy scriptures. Rahab is not called a liar nor is her lie called a sin by God and when it comes to judging God is the only one with the necessary qualifications to say what is a sin and what is not.
      Indeed, sin is reckoned through intentions, and is not a matter of mechanical do's and don'ts...

      At least it is so reckoned at the beginings...

      A stray evil thought for a Saint is a bigger sin than is murder for one not knowing God...

      Maturity brings increasingly greater responsibility...

      Arsenios

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      The Archdiocese in Minneapolis is beginning their weekend block party to raise money for upkeep of the Basilica.
      It is 72 hours of debauchery, drunkenness, sexual promiscuity, both hetero and homosexual sex around the Basilica. Pagans revel in this binge of human decadence.
      Someone please explain how the Roman Church makes the end justify the means.
      How was the party? hehe
      If you want to rile people up then go to a Christian site and give God ALL the glory for your salvation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TurtleHare View Post
      How was the party? hehe
      They needed front-end loaders to scoop up the drunks.

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