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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Basilica Block Party

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      Basilica Block Party

      The Archdiocese in Minneapolis is beginning their weekend block party to raise money for upkeep of the Basilica.
      It is 72 hours of debauchery, drunkenness, sexual promiscuity, both hetero and homosexual sex around the Basilica. Pagans revel in this binge of human decadence.
      Someone please explain how the Roman Church makes the end justify the means.

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      Wiki says that the Basilica only serves the space for the event...they aren't the ones running it. They do have a cardboard printout of the pope that people can take a pic with
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Wiki says that the Basilica only serves the space for the event...they aren't the ones running it. They do have a cardboard printout of the pope that people can take a pic with
      The Basilica takes in all the money raised and supports the party.
      It should be noted that Minneapolis/St Paul is a haven of liberal thinking. Many churches have no problem with individual sin while denouncing all behavior that they think is unjust.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      The Archdiocese in Minneapolis is beginning their weekend block party to raise money for upkeep of the Basilica.
      It is 72 hours of debauchery, drunkenness, sexual promiscuity, both hetero and homosexual sex around the Basilica. Pagans revel in this binge of human decadence.
      Someone please explain how the Roman Church makes the end justify the means.
      The web page is at https://www.basilicablockparty.org/

      I don't see any mention of the wickedness you mentioned. Maybe you're mistaken?
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      The web page is at https://www.basilicablockparty.org/

      I don't see any mention of the wickedness you mentioned. Maybe you're mistaken?
      Come on over to Minneapolis and spend a few hours in Loring Park and find out. You can spend time calling an ambulance to get the folks who have become so intoxicated they can no longer function. All for the Basilica...

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Come on over to Minneapolis and spend a few hours in Loring Park and find out. You can spend time calling an ambulance to get the folks who have become so intoxicated they can no longer function. All for the Basilica...
      Are you implying that the local priest or local bishop ought to go over there and forbid the consumption of alcohol? Do you think he has that kind of influence? He is not running the event is he, but you think he is responsible for what the organisers do?
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Are you implying that the local priest or local bishop ought to go over there and forbid the consumption of alcohol? Do you think he has that kind of influence? He is not running the event is he, but you think he is responsible for what the organisers do?
      I'm asking the question: Does the end justify the means? Should the church sponsor a drinking festival to pay for the upkeep of its building?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      I'm asking the question: Does the end justify the means? Should the church sponsor a drinking festival to pay for the upkeep of its building?
      But the web page does not say that the bishop, priest, or diocese sponsors "it". The web page indicates that the money raised at the event is intended for the upkeep of the Basilica - a building - but not for the benefit of the church (the people of God). It seems you may have confused a church building with the church of the living God.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      But the web page does not say that the bishop, priest, or diocese sponsors "it". The web page indicates that the money raised at the event is intended for the upkeep of the Basilica - a building - but not for the benefit of the church (the people of God). It seems you may have confused a church building with the church of the living God.
      Who owns the Basilica, MC? Does the church express its displeasure in the behavior taking place as they take the money? Would you have any concerns if the local drug dealers in your neighborhood supplied funds for your church building fund while they kept feeding your kids drugs?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Who owns the Basilica, MC? Does the church express its displeasure in the behavior taking place as they take the money? Would you have any concerns if the local drug dealers in your neighborhood supplied funds for your church building fund while they kept feeding your kids drugs?
      MennoSota, how about you writing a letter to the bishop or the parish priest and put forward your concerns and see what answer is given, then you will know who owns what and who runs what, and what kinds of things happen. Then there will be no more guessing because you'll have the information directly from the people that you are most concerned about in this matter.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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