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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: When was Satan created and does it effect the length of days in Genesis 1

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      So...when Jesus said to Peter "Get behind me Satan", he was saying "get behind me Babylonian King?"
      When the Bible records that Satan came to tempt Jesus...it was really a Babylonian King?
      In your view Satan is a myth made up by men? ...Alright then...
      Right and not just that but Christ and Satan are the only two alone in the desert which testifies to me that no bystander was around to witness them at the time. Therefore Jesus testified this later (perhaps within the 40 days after his resurrection) to his witnesses the Apostles.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      In the Mennonite community we would sometimes have a Freasen-Dick wedding...
      I can't stop the world from turning around, or the pull of the moon on the tide...
      But I don't believe that we're in this alone, I believe we're along for the ride..
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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      So...when Jesus said to Peter "Get behind me Satan", he was saying "get behind me Babylonian King?"
      When the Bible records that Satan came to tempt Jesus...it was really a Babylonian King?
      In your view Satan is a myth made up by men? ...Alright then...
      A literal understanding of the Bible is certainly full of problems isn't it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by JRT View Post
      A literal understanding of the Bible is certainly full of problems isn't it?
      Not really.
      The rule of interpretation is rather simple: When the plain sense makes common sense, seek no other sense.
      That being said, you have avoided Jesus words. Jesus (God himself) dialogues with Satan. Nothing about the dialogue presents your position.
      What other numerology do you have for us?

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      In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1.

      Satan was later cast down from heaven and then we see him in Genesis luring Eve to sin.

      Revelation 12:9
      And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Here it is found it...

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Not really.
      The rule of interpretation is rather simple: When the plain sense makes common sense, seek no other sense.
      That being said, you have avoided Jesus words. Jesus (God himself) dialogues with Satan. Nothing about the dialogue presents your position.
      What other numerology do you have for us?
      Sorry, I have no use for numerology. I read the Bible for meaning and over the decades I have found that meaning to be far less literal than most Christians are prepared to understand. That's OK, it is a slow process and one that some never come to.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JRT View Post
      Sorry, I have no use for numerology. I read the Bible for meaning and over the decades I have found that meaning to be far less literal than most Christians are prepared to understand. That's OK, it is a slow process and one that some never come to.
      Of course some/most never slip down that rabbit hole. Generally I find those who make up their own interpretations are looking for a way out of their hopeless and helpless predicament without having to trust God.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Of course some/most never slip down that rabbit hole. Generally I find those who make up their own interpretations are looking for a way out of their hopeless and helpless predicament without having to trust God.
      :/
      There are revelations of the Spirit tho... The Bible speaks to us and even asks us to listen to what the Spirit is saying, anyone can easily exploit the bible based on the literal sense but there is a special reason why Revelation for example is considered a blessing to the church... just saying that the reader can indeed find credible and deeper revelations as a patient saint other than one assuming a quick approach.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1.

      Satan was later cast down from heaven and then we see him in Genesis luring Eve to sin.

      Revelation 12:9
      And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
      From what I've looked up there is some debate as to whether "heavens" in the Hebrew referred to all of creation, or merely the heavenly bodies. It could have both - it's broad enough to have included angels, but not definitive.
      I can't stop the world from turning around, or the pull of the moon on the tide...
      But I don't believe that we're in this alone, I believe we're along for the ride..
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