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      To me, it seems that each of us has his breaking point. Its just a question of how much each of us is willing to take before deciding that the line has been crossed. I would have a hard time saying that one persons breaking point is wrong and someone else's is right, except perhaps for the most extreme cases.

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      I think there's also a difference between a commercial transaction and a charitable transaction. In London there's a periodical you can buy called The Big Issue that is sold by homeless people. The idea is they buy it and sell it at a profit and therefore do something useful, learning at least some basic business skills along the way. The guy who started the whole thing was very hot on the idea that it was a commercial process and the idea was that people bought the product because they wanted it, although most of the people I knew (myself included) bought it more as an act of charity than an act of business. Anyway.... one place I lived had a regular Big Issue seller who was an all round nice guy. I'd often give him a little extra, especially when it was cold, and he was always appreciative. Then I mvoed to a different area and had a different Big Issue seller. He seemed like a nice guy until the time I saw him very drunk and acting very aggressively towards people. The first time I ignored it, the second time I stopped buying from him. I'm not interested in giving someone a handout if they're just going to get drunk and aggressive with it.

      On the other hand if someone delivers a pizza to my door it's only fair to give them a tip. Because they are providing me with a service I requested it's not really the same as a handout. In any case, the chances are high that within any given business at least one of the employees does something I might find distasteful and it's simply not realistic to expect every member of staff at every business I might frequent to submit to extreme vetting to make sure I approve of every single thing they might do with their salary.
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      This might not be directly on topic but it does sort of relate. President Trump has initiated a trade war that will hurt my country --- Canada. Until this issue is resolved I will do my best not to buy anything "made in the USA".

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      even after tariffs were put on? It seems that Canada responded
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      Quote Originally Posted by JRT View Post
      This might not be directly on topic but it does sort of relate. President Trump has initiated a trade war that will hurt my country --- Canada. Until this issue is resolved I will do my best not to buy anything "made in the USA".
      Is anything made in the USA any more? When I visited Gettysburg a few years ago I'd really hoped to find something that that was. Everything was made in China, made in India, made in Nicaragua.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JRT View Post
      This might not be directly on topic but it does sort of relate. President Trump has initiated a trade war that will hurt my country --- Canada. Until this issue is resolved I will do my best not to buy anything "made in the USA".
      You want the status quo to have been maintained by which Canada got to rip off the USA. Why wouldn't Canadians want that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      You want the status quo to have been maintained by which Canada got to rip off the USA. Why wouldn't Canadians want that?
      From my point of view the status quo for my entire life has been the USA bullying and ripping off Canada. I want it changed but not in the same way as Trump --- he wants to exploit us even more.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      Is anything made in the USA any more? When I visited Gettysburg a few years ago I'd really hoped to find something that that was. Everything was made in China, made in India, made in Nicaragua.
      That's what I was going to ask. Even if it's assembled here the parts are made in other countries.

      I mean, we don't even recycle our own plastic. We were shipping it to China for recycling! But now that's stopped because they won't do it so we need to have some companies figure out a way to recycle their own plastic.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JRT View Post
      From my point of view the status quo for my entire life has been the USA bullying and ripping off Canada. I want it changed but not in the same way as Trump --- he wants to exploit us even more.
      LOL. Ill just chalk that up to you not having had access to the facts. Maybe too much listening to CBC...or that Prime Minister with the talents and character of a second-rate High School Student Council President, possibly.

      I am sorry that the dignified and respected Canadian political leaders of yore are not around today.

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