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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Grace

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      Angels are creatures so they very likely were created in time. Though it is possible that they are creatures of eternity. The Silmarillion suggests that they are creatures of eternity but that is a work of fiction.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      I think it does. Apparently most Christians agree, although there are those who do not.
      The 6 days of creation are the bringing into existence creation itself which contains time...

      In them time is being created...

      How can they possibly be subject to time??

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      Grace: God giving us what we don't deserve.
      Mercy: God not giving us what we do deserve.

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      Grace: Unmerited favor

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Angels are creatures so they very likely were created in time. Though it is possible that they are creatures of eternity. The Silmarillion suggests that they are creatures of eternity but that is a work of fiction.
      I think creation was created THROUGH the Angelic Powers and Principalities...

      Not my strong suit, I confess...

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      Angels are eternal creatures otherwise how can some be locked away or demons exist as they are fallen angels as well. Also the lake of fire is eternal is it not?
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      Angels are eternal creatures otherwise how can some be locked away or demons exist as they are fallen angels as well. Also the lake of fire is eternal is it not?
      If they are eternal then they exist outside of time. But that is not really something I can recall being taught in Church nor in holy scripture. But I may be wrong, it is not a topic I have researched recently.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Grace: God giving us what we don't deserve.
      Mercy: God not giving us what we do deserve.
      Mhmmm. Nuff said.
      If you want to rile people up then go to a Christian site and give God ALL the glory for your salvation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TurtleHare View Post
      Mhmmm. Nuff said.
      I didn't start this thread to find a pithy one line definition of grace and mercy. The first post says
      In the thread Salvation some questions were raised about "grace"

      One is about uncreated and created grace.

      Other questions were also raised.

      So, here is a new thread to discuss those specific issues. They do relate to Salvation but they also are a subject in themselves.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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