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    Christian Theology - Thread: Competing ideals and philosophies

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arsenios View Post




      This last is the "Great Horologion" which is very large and comprehensive, and $114...

      Like you, I am a sucker for a prayer book...

      My favorite is the Psalter... I has a weekly prescription for reading it entirely each week... According to the Kathismata...



      The Service Books you show above are what we pray daily, except Orthodox versions of them...

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      I prefer this one...

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      I prefer this one...
      I read that one a long while ago. It is a morality tale with a lot of theology in it.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      I read that one a long while ago. It is a morality tale with a lot of theology in it.
      It's an allegory. You should like it. It also oozes with great theological truths. It's the most read book after the Bible. I encourage you to read it again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      It's an allegory. ...
      Allegory can be tiresome.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Allegory can be tiresome.
      Not as tiresome as you and Arsenios appealing to your traditions when speaking of grace...

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      OK - This one is my all-time favorite - My response to it is what motivated my Christian Baptismal name, Arsenios.

      https://www.amazon.com/Father-Arseny.../dp/0881411809

      It was my first Orthodox book when I first encountered this Faith, and some 16 years later we did a re-read of it aloud in catechism class, and it was even better than when I first read it... As good as it had been, it was much better the second time through... It is the Faith of Christ without the smells and the bells and the beautiful Churches and Cathedrals... And it gives their basis and validation... He was sent to a labor camp in the gulag of Siberia where one's papers weere destroyed, because you were not intended to ever survive and return... It shows the Faith in action where the Church is no longer functional, but the greatest of the faithful just pour themselves out even more... For the sake of those weak in the Faith who are just traumatied by the horrific conditions of existence there...

      Arsenios

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Not as tiresome as you and Arsenios appealing to your traditions when speaking of grace...
      Do you have a care-taker to clean up your little spit-ups like this?

      Your commentaries lack pith...

      And abound in drool...

      Arsenios

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      Competing ideals and philosophies

      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Allegory can be tiresome.
      Itís more a parable than allegory. And parables are based upon a truth.


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      "Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ Romans 5:1

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arsenios View Post
      Do you have a care-taker to clean up your little spit-ups like this?

      Your commentaries lack pith...

      And abound in drool...

      Arsenios
      From which EO tradition did you copy and paste such words?

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      Quote Originally Posted by RichWh1 View Post
      Itís more a parable than allegory. And parables are based upon a truth.


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      You may want to take that up with MennoSota since he said it was an allegory. I said it is a morality tale with a lot of theology in it.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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