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    Politics - Thread: It's abhorrent.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      You are right brother psalms 91, it is abhorrent and worse to do that to children.
      To do that to children?? Have you been watching too much MSNBC? The "that" in this case is like going to boarding school, not the image of Nazi concentration camps that the professional hatemongers are trying to sell to the American public. It is much better than what these people knew in their own countries before migrating to the USA and better than what millions of our own children experience.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      To do that to children?? Have you been watching too much MSNBC? The "that" in this case is like going to boarding school, not the image of Nazi concentration camps that the professional hatemongers are trying to sell to the American public. It is much better than what these people knew in their own countries before migrating to the USA and better than what millions of our own children experience.
      The news always tries to make more drama but having known many foster families I believe you're right. The kids are getting much better treatment than with their parents. Once the parents get their legal matters cleared up then they can appeal to their consulates to locate the children if they do not know where they were taken.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      To do that to children?? Have you been watching too much MSNBC? The "that" in this case is like going to boarding school, not the image of Nazi concentration camps that the professional hatemongers are trying to sell to the American public. It is much better than what these people knew in their own countries before migrating to the USA and better than what millions of our own children experience.
      Bottom line, they are the parents, if they can keep them seperately they can also keep them together which would be the decent christian thing to do
      Isaiah 40:31

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      The children in that report are US citizens whose parents were deported. Still something that needs to be dealt with. I agree that Trump didn’t create the problem, but in deciding to charge parents he added a whole new set of difficulties to a system that was already broken.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      You wrote I'm not buying your argument that all of those crossing the border are running from death, rape and other unsafe conditions. Good. I do not buy that either. It isn't what I wrote. I wrote Running from persecution and danger appears to be the motive for many (if not all) refugee applicants. Buy what is true. And do not play with false representations.
      There is no false representation. Your post in #12 said this

      "Harsh penalties for serious crimes committed in a safe society under a democratic and open government is what some people think works as a deterrent. But aren't refugee applicants escaping from a society that is not safe and a government that is not democratic and open? Running from persecution and danger appears to be the motive for many (if not all) refugee applicants. So how will harsh penalties deter them? They are running from death, rape, and slavery so having their children taken from them for a time is horrendous but not nearly as horrendous as what they are fleeing. That makes the harsh penalty theory collapse because the penalty is harsh but not as harsh as what they are running from. It makes the harsh penalty cruel."

      You notice that you said "death, rape, and slavery". While I didn't quote you directly, I did say much the same thing. Don't accuse me of false representation when we can all go back and read what you wrote. Maybe you should do that before you make false statements yourself

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      I think that every last one of them should be housed in Emerson, Manitoba. Those who are already there seem to like it and Trudeau invited refugees, so why wouldn't everyone be happy with this solution?

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      Because it still doesnt correct what is wrong with the policy and the people behind it. It is a hellish policy that is immoral and unethical. Sessions should be firedbut of course wont be because Trump fully agrees with it or he would change it. He says it is a terrible policy but his lack of action to change it which could be done in a second if he so chose to do it he will not do.
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      Because it still doesnt correct what is wrong with the policy and the people behind it. It is a hellish policy that is immoral and unethical.
      You'll have to tell why that is so...if it is so. All the over-the-top adjectives don't accomplish anything.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      You'll have to tell why that is so...if it is so. All the over-the-top adjectives don't accomplish anything.
      Neither does seperating children from their parents, that is just cruel. hard on the kids and hard on the parents but hey whatever Sessons and Trump want, its ok, right, not now not ever.
      Isaiah 40:31

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