• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Embarrassed
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Grumpy
  • Happy
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Results 1 to 8 of 8
    1. #1
      jsimms435's Avatar
      jsimms435 is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      2,806
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      4,828
      CH Challenge
      84
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      15,276
      Level
      35
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      62.2%
      Rep Power
      429

      Cohen may cooperate with Prosecutor

      President Donald Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen has indicated to family and friends he is willing to cooperate with federal investigators to alleviate the pressure on himself and his family, according to a source familiar with the matter.

      Cohen has expressed anger with the treatment he has gotten from the President, who has minimized his relationship with Cohen, and comments from the President's lawyer Rudy Giuliani, the source said. The treatment has left him feeling isolated and more open to cooperating, the source said.

      rest of article here
      https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/polit...ors/index.html

      Could this be the beginning of the end for Trump?

    2. #2
      Confessional Lutheran's Avatar
      Confessional Lutheran is offline Prodigy Member
      45
      Divorced
      John 15:5
       
      Mood:
      Innocent
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      Northern Virginia
      Posts
      764
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      3,536
      CH Challenge
      11
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      11,638
      Level
      31
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      79.65%
      Rep Power
      254
      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      President Donald Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen has indicated to family and friends he is willing to cooperate with federal investigators to alleviate the pressure on himself and his family, according to a source familiar with the matter.

      Cohen has expressed anger with the treatment he has gotten from the President, who has minimized his relationship with Cohen, and comments from the President's lawyer Rudy Giuliani, the source said. The treatment has left him feeling isolated and more open to cooperating, the source said.

      rest of article here
      https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/polit...ors/index.html

      Could this be the beginning of the end for Trump?
      We shall see what we shall see. Trump has a pretty good track record as a survivor, though, so we'll see if this has any effect at all on his administration.

    3. Likes RichWh1 liked this post
    4. #3
      psalms 91's Avatar
      psalms 91 is offline Silver Member
      Moderator
      Supporting Member
      69
      Mood:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Location
      Pa
      Posts
      12,805
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      2,037
      CH Challenge
      89
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (3,571,091 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      55,977
      Level
      59
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      64.58%
      Rep Power
      591
      It will be interesting to see this play out
      Isaiah 40:31

    5. #4
      jsimms435's Avatar
      jsimms435 is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      2,806
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      4,828
      CH Challenge
      84
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      15,276
      Level
      35
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      62.2%
      Rep Power
      429
      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      It will be interesting to see this play out
      Cohen must be in a lot of trouble to cooperate

    6. #5
      tango's Avatar
      tango is offline Bronze Member
      Valued Contributor
      Supporting Member
      Married
      ... and you shall live ...
       
      Mood:
      Bemused
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Location
      Elsewhere
      Posts
      6,364
      CH Cash
      3,231
      CH Challenge
      32
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (5,443,091 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      29,080
      Level
      46
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      28.95%
      Rep Power
      727
      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      Cohen must be in a lot of trouble to cooperate
      Hard to know. It's said that most people commit multiple federal offenses in the average week and if the government really wants you they'll find something you've done that violates some obscure federal law. Maybe they're just turning up the heat in ways that shouldn't be legal in the hope he will cooperate and have something they can use.

      I read a while back about a proposal to introduce a concept that I think is called mens rea that requires a prosecutor to prove criminal intent as opposed to just criminal conduct, simply because there are so many laws on the books that it's easy to picture someone committing a crime without even knowing it (that in itself is worrying). So, for example, if someone is caught robbing a bank there's clear criminal intent because the obvious intention is to steal, while someone operating a boat without a license because they didn't know you needed a license isn't so clear cut.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

    7. Likes jsimms435 liked this post
    8. #6
      jsimms435's Avatar
      jsimms435 is offline Expert Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      2,806
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      4,828
      CH Challenge
      84
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      15,276
      Level
      35
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      62.2%
      Rep Power
      429
      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      Hard to know. It's said that most people commit multiple federal offenses in the average week and if the government really wants you they'll find something you've done that violates some obscure federal law. Maybe they're just turning up the heat in ways that shouldn't be legal in the hope he will cooperate and have something they can use.

      I read a while back about a proposal to introduce a concept that I think is called mens rea that requires a prosecutor to prove criminal intent as opposed to just criminal conduct, simply because there are so many laws on the books that it's easy to picture someone committing a crime without even knowing it (that in itself is worrying). So, for example, if someone is caught robbing a bank there's clear criminal intent because the obvious intention is to steal, while someone operating a boat without a license because they didn't know you needed a license isn't so clear cut.
      I would think that being a lawyer he would have a better sense of just how bad things were going for him. It also says in the article that he feels like Trump has alienated him by distancing himself from Cohen

    9. #7
      tango's Avatar
      tango is offline Bronze Member
      Valued Contributor
      Supporting Member
      Married
      ... and you shall live ...
       
      Mood:
      Bemused
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Location
      Elsewhere
      Posts
      6,364
      CH Cash
      3,231
      CH Challenge
      32
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (5,443,091 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      29,080
      Level
      46
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      28.95%
      Rep Power
      727
      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      I would think that being a lawyer he would have a better sense of just how bad things were going for him. It also says in the article that he feels like Trump has alienated him by distancing himself from Cohen
      Perhaps, although he could also be more aware than most how a prosecutor determined to apply pressure until something cracks is likely to get their way sooner or later. If there is truly pressure on his family, other than in the context of his family being concerned about him, it suggests the prosecutor is just throwing mud until something sticks.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

    10. #8
      MoreCoffee's Avatar
      MoreCoffee is offline Gold Member
      Girding loins for the battle.
       
      Mood:
      Awesome
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      16,153
      CH Cash
      20,415
      CH Challenge
      695
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      43,607
      Level
      54
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      24.54%
      Rep Power
      681
      So far the story is a "I hear that ..." kind of story. It may be true and it may not be true. Time will tell, as it so often does, if his intention is to testify against Donald Trump or not.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •