Jsimm's thread about visiting a new church made me wonder about this. I go to a church where there are mostly older members and I'm still feeling new even though I've been there 4 years. I don't know who is a visitor and who is a long time member most times. What kind of things do you say when you just don't know if the person is a visitor? I'd feel humiliated if I asked someone if he/she was a visitor and then found out quite the opposite. Do you dare ask? What do you say?