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    Ethics & Debate Center - Thread: Common Figure of Speech?

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      Albi
      re: "Maybe this question should also be answered: 'What difference does it make to us on which day the Resurrection took place? '"

      That's an issue for a different topic. Perhaps you could start one.

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      So this one is just about Bible trivia? OK. I can go with that.

      Such questions do sometimes make for interesting speculation, such as "What did Jesus look like?" or "Where did the three wise men come from? "

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      Albion,
      re: "So this one is just about Bible trivia...Such questions do sometimes make for interesting speculation..."

      Actually, the topic is not about speculation. It's about actual examples, i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred (see the OP). If that is considered trivia, so be it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rstrats View Post
      Albion,
      re: "So this one is just about Bible trivia...Such questions do sometimes make for interesting speculation..."

      Actually, the topic is not about speculation. .
      Yes, its speculation about which day was Resurrection Day, and speculation concerning how the days and nights should or were counted.

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      I guess it wonít hurt to respond to diversions this one last time. The inevitable will come to pass anyway. The evidence will be presented sooner or later.

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      Albion, Post #9:
      Maybe this question should also be answered: "What difference does it make to us on which day the Resurrection took place? "
      Iíll leave it to others to answer that, if they deem it worthwhile.

      Note that in his Post #12, Albion (at least by implication) associates knowing the day the Bible defines as the day Jesus was crucified, with speculative questions such as the one above and "What did Jesus look like?" or "Where did the three wise men come from?". One wonders why he felt the need to do that.

      And in Post #14 he stated:
      Yes, its speculation about which day was Resurrection Day, and speculation concerning how the days and nights should or were counted.
      Once again there is a drawing of attention away from the crucifixion day, by concentration on the day of the resurrection. And the keeping of attention away from other important evidence the Bible documents, by focussing on the style of counting that was used (which, in the absence of that other important evidence, can be said to be inconclusive).

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      rstrats, Post #10:
      Pedrito,
      re: "Iím suggesting that sometimes it is wise not to jump the gun."

      I don't see what that has to do with you knowing right now if believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week? Do you or don't you?
      People in general tend to reject ideas that they donít like. Members of Christendom do it all the time.

      It is true that presenting evidence before presenting the conclusion based on that evidence, wonít necessarily change peopleís minds.

      However, people who reject a conclusion in spite of the evidence presented, are without excuse if the evidence and the conclusion prove sound.

      Hence my approach.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Pedrito View Post
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      Note that in his Post #12, Albion (at least by implication) associates knowing the day the Bible defines as the day Jesus was crucified, with speculative questions such as the one above and "What did Jesus look like?" or "Where did the three wise men come from?". One wonders why he felt the need to do that.

      And in Post #14 he stated:


      Once again there is a drawing of attention away from the crucifixion day, by concentration on the day of the resurrection. And the keeping of attention away from other important evidence the Bible documents, by focussing on the style of counting that was used (which, in the absence of that other important evidence, can be said to be inconclusive).
      I suppose you could always ask him if you're as slow or confused as this post suggests.

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      Albion,
      re: "Yes, its speculation about which day was Resurrection Day, and speculation concerning how the days and nights should or were counted."

      But those are different issues for a different topic. This one is concerned with one thing and only one thing:

      1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth"

      2. There are those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

      3. Of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.

      4. A 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.

      5. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, some of those mentioned above say that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language.

      6. I wonder if anyone who falls in that group of believers could provide examples to support that belief; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime and/or no part of the night time could have occurred.

      Again, the topic request for examples is with regard to the commonality of forecasting a daytime or a night time when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could occur.

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      What most do not take into account is a high Sabbeth day which would have happened because of Passover.
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by rstrats View Post
      Albion,
      re: "Yes, its speculation about which day was Resurrection Day, and speculation concerning how the days and nights should or were counted."

      But those are different issues for a different topic. This one is concerned with one thing and only one thing:
      Excuse me, but it is about speculation over the day on which Our Lord rose from the grave.

      What you want to bring in is the reasoning given by one side of the argument, against which we would have to list (if it had not already been one on CH) all the arguments given by the other side. Then everyone could choose the speculation that seemed the more persuasive.

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      Albion,
      re: "Excuse me, but it is about speculation over the day on which Our Lord rose from the grave."

      And again, that is not what it is about. It's about providing examples which show that it was common to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be or was involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur.



      re: "What you want to bring in is the reasoning given by one side of the argument..."

      That is incorrect. I'm merely looking for actual examples which show that it was common to forecast or say that a daytime or a night time would be or was involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur.

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