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    Christian Theology - Thread: HELL

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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
      Revelation 21:8
      As a believer you have the Holy Spirit living in you. You don't believe that the Holy Spirit would have to suffer do you? Didn't Jesus suffer for your sins already? You're covered by Christ's righteousness.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      As a believer you have the Holy Spirit living in you. You don't believe that the Holy Spirit would have to suffer do you? Didn't Jesus suffer for your sins already? You're covered by Christ's righteousness.
      Truth indeed.
      The verse I refer to is dealing with the unrepented sinner and unbelievers having their part in the fire, when putting on the new man we bury the old man so to speak, and all men are to die once and then the judgment... To die twice is to take part in the second death, lake of fire.

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      Hedrick in Post #44 explained for us:
      The idea of the age of accountability comes from the understanding that due to original sin, everyone deserves hell. Only by a positive action can we be saved from this. Since infants can’t do this, they get a special exemption. So the question is at what age the exemption stops...
      The explanation is a worthy summary of the “problem” of original sin, and the commonly taught solution for its perceived effect on infants. However, I would once again suggest that that set of ideas is based on human wisdom – it is of human derivation. It overrides the clear, simple revelation that God graciously provided for us. That set of ideas is totally at odds with “the faith once and for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 1:3)

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      For instance, the concept of an age of accountability (the time of transition from the state of infant protection, to that of adult responsibility) is not taught in the Bible. It is a totally foreign concept with respect to the Original Apostolic Gospel. (Alien, actually. Flying saucer stuff.)

      Yet that concept is central to the doctrine sets of most churches. (Whether or not they admit it. Whether or not they deny it.)

      The important question is: How could the apostles have got it so wrong? How could they have missed something so “fundamental”, something so “obviously necessary”?

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      But what if the apostles didn’t get it wrong? What if that teaching, well summarised for us above, is not fundamental, but seriously flawed?

      To find out, we simply need to ask: Just what was (and still is) the clear Apostolic Teaching, committed to writing as it was (and still is), about the fate of all infants who (so tragically) die, whether or not they are baptised?

      Anyone?


      (My request in Post #42 for references (any reference) unequivocally referring to an age of accountability, bore no fruit.)


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      Seeking to understand with precision, God's holy and coherent revelation to us.

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