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      Seminary President removed from job

      Paige Patterson was recently removed from his job as President at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. A school I went to over two decades ago

      The article that reported this says
      FORT WORTH — "Prominent Southern Baptist leader Paige Patterson was removed from his job as president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary amid an evangelical #MeToo moment: a massive backlash from women upset over comments he made in the past that are being newly perceived as sexist and demeaning.

      Seminary leaders were unspecific about why they made the dramatic move, issuing a statement that didn’t mention the controversial comments and saying they were moving “in the direction of new leadership” due to challenges related to “enrollment, financial, leadership and institutional identity.”

      The brief statement released early Wednesday said Patterson will be president emeritus, “for the benefit of the future mission of the Seminary.” He will receive compensation and may live on campus as “theologian-in-residence” at a brand new Baptist Heritage Center, the statement said."

      The whole article is here
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.68c74dcf639c

      The remark that seemed to be sexist was made over four years ago

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      Another example of being PC, I feel sorry for him
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      Another example of being PC, I feel sorry for him
      When I was there Dr.Dilday was removed for being a moderate. Even though he worked there for over a decade he found out he was removed when he went to work and his key didn't fit his door anymore. They have a history of keeping Presidents for a long time, but quick and dramatic changes

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      I wouldnt set foot in that school. I wonder if they would kick someone out right before they got their degree? Same type of action
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      I wouldnt set foot in that school. I wonder if they would kick someone out right before they got their degree? Same type of action
      Maybe the lesson is "do no work for a religious institution"
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Maybe the lesson is "do no work for a religious institution"
      the change wasn't due to religion. It was a political move. They aren't debating his religious views

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      I DO think justice matters here... and since these things are typically done very privately and so evidence is often missing, I think this often puts the victim at a disadvantage.

      But I think - at times - this has gone overboard. Perhaps at times a "witch hunt." And I think at times, it becomes a "guilty until you can prove yourself innocent" situation where proof is impossible since evidence is absent.

      How to find the balance...



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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      I DO think justice matters here... and since these things are typically done very privately and so evidence is often missing, I think this often puts the victim at a disadvantage.

      But I think - at times - this has gone overboard. Perhaps at times a "witch hunt." And I think at times, it becomes a "guilty until you can prove yourself innocent" situation where proof is impossible since evidence is absent.

      How to find the balance...



      - Josiah
      I'm not sure who the victim is here. the article states that they are giving him a place to stay near the campus even though he's not going to be President anymore and probably other benefits from being a past President. He will be alright

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      To me the two most serious things were
      * In 2003 when he was president of a different seminary he counseled a student who had been raped at the school not to report it. The fact that he was president makes it a coverup. Events like that in the past have still gotten Penn State and the Catholic Church in trouble. If Southwestern believes this is likely to result in criminal charges, they may not want the headline "President of Southwest Seminary indicted for coverup ..."
      * It appears that he currently teaches that women who are abused should stay with their husbands

      The Southern Baptists are trying to maintain wifely submission. In order to avoid rebellion from their women, they have to draw lines around how far that can go. So yes, in a sense it's political.

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      Is there a procedure/protocol that is followed for removing a seminary President?
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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