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  • View Poll Results: Do you have assurance that you will have everlasting life with God?

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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Do you have assurance that you will have everlasting life with God?

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      Do you have assurance that you will have everlasting life with God?

      Do you have assurance that you will have everlasting life with God? This is a poll and the options are Yes, No and I am not sure.

      This is begun because of the Justification thread where we have members (who believe that works are a part of Justification) are uncertain of their salvation.

      If you vote, please tell us why and back it up with scripture.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      I voted yes and there are multiple verses of scripture I can use but the easiest one to type is John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      I can NEVER be confident if justification depended upon me even 0.000000000000000000001%

      But it depends on Jesus 100.000000000000000000%

      Jesus is the Savior. Not me.

      Thus, I can have absolute assurance.
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      Romans 8:1 tells us that no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Romans 8 also speaks about how nothing can separate us from the Love of God, so because of what he has done I am saved and can have assurance

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      Romans 8:1 tells us that no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Romans 8 also speaks about how nothing can separate us from the Love of God, so because of what he has done I am saved and can have assurance
      What he said
      Isaiah 40:31

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      There are so many verses that assure those whom God has chosen. I would not be surprised if every book in the Bible has something that gives us assurance of God's promise to keep us.
      Colossians 1:12-14
      [12]He has enabled you to share in the inheritance that belongs to his people, who live in the light.
      [13]For he has rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of his dear Son,
      [14]who purchased our freedom and forgave our sins.

      All God. None of me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Do you have assurance that you will have everlasting life with God? This is a poll and the options are Yes, No and I am not sure.

      This is begun because of the Justification thread where we have members (who believe that works are a part of Justification) are uncertain of their salvation.

      If you vote, please tell us why and back it up with scripture.
      Works are part of sanctification, not justification. Yes, I am assured of my salvation. We are saved by grace through faith to do works.

      For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
      Ephesians 2:8*-‬10 NIV

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      My answer isn't up in the poll. My answer is it doesn't matter because heaven is here on earth. I see things in a metaphorical sense and different than most of you.
      Last edited by Ruth; 05-21-2018 at 09:12 PM. Reason: Added additional content

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      Of course I do! And I'll meet you all there! Hallelujah!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Do you have assurance that you will have everlasting life with God? This is a poll and the options are Yes, No and I am not sure.

      This is begun because of the Justification thread where we have members (who believe that works are a part of Justification) are uncertain of their salvation.

      If you vote, please tell us why and back it up with scripture.
      The question is interesting. It amounts to saying "I am confident that my faith is real enough to warrant confidence that I shall go to heaven and if works play a role in justification then my works are good enough to warrant heaven if works do not play any role whatever then my faith regardless of my works is enough to warrant my entry to heaven so I am heaven bound no matter how I behave and what I say and what theology I support because my faith alone warrants my entry to heaven!"

      There was a church council that answered this question. It did a fairly good job too. Saying "
      But though it is necessary to believe that sins neither are remitted nor ever have been remitted except gratuitously by divine mercy for Christ's sake, yet it must not be said that sins are forgiven or have been forgiven to anyone who boasts of his confidence and certainty of the remission of his sins, resting on that alone, though among heretics and schismatics this vain and ungodly confidence may be and in our troubled times indeed is found and preached with untiring fury against the Catholic Church.

      Moreover, it must not be maintained, that they who are truly justified must needs, without any doubt whatever, convince themselves that they are justified, and that no one is absolved from sins and justified except he that believes with certainty that he is absolved and justified, and that absolution and justification are effected by this faith alone, as if he who does not believe this, doubts the promises of God and the efficacy of the death and resurrection of Christ.

      For as no pious person ought to doubt the mercy of God, the merit of Christ and the virtue and efficacy of the sacraments, so each one, when he considers himself and his own weakness and indisposition, may have fear and apprehension concerning his own grace, since no one can know with the certainty of faith, which cannot be subject to error, that he has obtained the grace of God.
      "
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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