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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: There really are Protestants who say "The Bible is God"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cassia View Post
      It seems to me that the 'incarnation' of the Word as the body of scripture, the Spoken Word, has been bodily (in book form) manifested as the fleshless and bodiless WORD of God. But when incarnation became flesh that which was seen and written preceeding His Incarnation have become the book of it's generation. The Holy Spirit speaks further to bring all, written and seen, together.
      Sorry but I can't help but think the message above is close to gibberish. The normal way of referring to the bible as God's word is "the word of God" though that phrase can be quite misleading because scripture is not the only word of God that exists. Nevertheless if we use "the word of God" to designate the bible then we ought to be careful not to use "the Word of God" for the same purpose because the normal convention is to capitalise words that refer to a person and "the Word" is Jesus Christ while "the word" is a book. Jesus is not a book and that is so obvious it ought never need be said. But the above message confuses and mixes concepts to the point of making no sense.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      I'm in the discussion a bit there (under another name) and that appears to be so. The title appears to be an "attention grab", but not seriously reflecting the OP's pov. It seems hard for him to articulate, though
      I agree that the title is a troll text. But what is particularly disturbing is that the original poster on that thread attempts to justify his trolling words as theologically sound. The idea that "The Bible is God" is just horribly heretical. It is inexcusable. To attempt to teach it and justify it is serious sin.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      I agree that the title is a troll text. But what is particularly disturbing is that the original poster on that thread attempts to justify his trolling words as theologically sound. The idea that "The Bible is God" is just horribly heretical. It is inexcusable. To attempt to teach it and justify it is serious sin.
      He should just change the paper title to the generative process of the new creation thru the word in letter, flesh and spirit.
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      and correctly interpreted by those into the spirit of the law.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Cassia View Post
      He should just change the paper title to the generative process of the new creation thru the word in letter, flesh and spirit.
      More than singing kum-by-ya is needed to make that into intelligible and meaningful English.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Eve and Adam managed to know God without a bible so did Abram/Abraham and Isaac and Jacob/Israel and all the generations from Adam until Moses.
      That's more or less a proof of the need for the Bible, isnt it?

      Unless, that is, we are convinced that Almighty God has planned to save only several people from very early history.

      So much for a Savior, the Incarnation, in fact, for Christianity itself, in that case.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      scripture is not the only word of God that exists.
      Such as...

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Such as...
      Three things are immediately obvious. They are
      • The things that God created.
      • Human nature and human conscience.
      • Apostolic Tradition.

      But the most obvious of all is not a thing it is a man, the man Jesus Christ. He is the Word who is God.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Three things are immediately obvious. They are
      • The things that God created.
      • Human nature and human conscience.
      • Apostolic Tradition.

      But the most obvious of all is not a thing it is a man, the man Jesus Christ. He is the Word who is God.
      None of those three are God's word. The first two are God's creation, which reveals God. Neither are the inspired words of God.
      Apostolic tradition is your personal crutch made-up entirely by your church. What we know about the Apostles is what God reveals in scripture. Anything added to that is merely storytelling by secondary sources. It does not meet the high standards of scripture. Any tradition that contradicts God's word must be destroyed as an idol that takes away from God's glory. Rome has many idols.

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      If you believe as I do that the bible is the inspired Word of God then it may not be God but it is His Word so make of that as you will.
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      If you believe as I do that the bible is the inspired Word of God then it may not be God but it is His Word so make of that as you will.
      I believe that the holy scriptures (all 73 books in the canon) are inspired by God and are useful for equipping Christians to know and do those things that God calls Christians to know and do. I call the holy scriptures "the word of God" but hesitate to capitalise the W in word because the holy scriptures identify the Word as God. So unlike the chap who wrote the original post in the thread on the other forum I do not believe that Christians ought to think of the bible as God because it clearly is not God it is a book made of paper and ink and whatever binding materials the publishers used to bind the pages and covers into a book.
      Last edited by MoreCoffee; 04-29-2018 at 01:39 AM.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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