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    Politics - Thread: Trump and James Comey

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      About the firing of James Comey:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_James_Comey

      Obstruction of Justice by Trump?
      https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/10/...on-case-strong

      The public evidence that Trump committed obstruction of justice — defined as “corruptly” attempting to “influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice” — is quite a bit stronger, particularly when it comes to the Comey firing.

      Technically, the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at any time and for any reason. However, the general belief among experts is that it’s not legal for the president to use this power in an attempt to shield himself or his family members from criminal investigation. Crucially, it does not matter whether Trump successfully shielded himself from scrutiny — all that matters is that he tried to.

      “The obstruction statutes are very broad,” Griffin explains. “It matters whether Trump ‘endeavors’ to impede the DOJ and congressional investigations at any turn.”

      This all hinges on what was in the president’s mind when he fired Comey. If Trump did it because he thought Comey was doing a poor job supervising the Russia investigation, that’s perfectly legal. If he did it because he was worried that Comey’s investigation might end up uncovering some kind of misdeeds by the Trump family — whether Russia-related, financial, or otherwise — then that’s obstruction.
      I think Trump fired Comey because he might uncover something criminal about Trump.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ruth View Post
      I think Trump fired Comey because he might uncover something criminal about Trump.
      I think some people will believe anything...so long as they also think there's a chance of it overturning the 2016 election.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      I think some people will believe anything...so long as they also think there's a chance of it overturning the 2016 election.
      I think Trump no matter if you like or dislike him has turned the White House into a circus with the amount of firings and replacements he has done. Pretty hard to have a cohesive policy when all the staff is turned over and in some cases multiple times
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      I think Trump no matter if you like or dislike him has turned the White House into a circus with the amount of firings and replacements he has done. Pretty hard to have a cohesive policy when all the staff is turned over and in some cases multiple times
      I would agree that the number of firings does seem remarkable. I'm not sure that has anything to do with the merits or otherwise of firing James Comey.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ruth View Post
      About the firing of James Comey:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_James_Comey

      Obstruction of Justice by Trump?
      https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/10/...on-case-strong



      I think Trump fired Comey because he might uncover something criminal about Trump.
      Trump likes to control people and Comey wasn't getting comfortable on his leash. Trump saw that he wasn't totally loyal to him, but to the constitution, so he fired him.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      I would agree that the number of firings does seem remarkable. I'm not sure that has anything to do with the merits or otherwise of firing James Comey.
      Just one more that Trump either disagreed with or was afraid of something
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      Trump likes to control people and Comey wasn't getting comfortable on his leash. Trump saw that he wasn't totally loyal to him, but to the constitution, so he fired him.
      I'm waiting to hear how turning the FBI into an arm of the democratic Party is supposed to be loyalty to the Constitution.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      I'm waiting to hear how turning the FBI into an arm of the democratic Party is supposed to be loyalty to the Constitution.
      Yup thats the spin, I know that before the spin Comey was respected and liked by both sides, strange how things change
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      I think some people will believe anything...so long as they also think there's a chance of it overturning the 2016 election.
      I don't care about an overturning of the election but rather JUSTICE.

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      Just one more that Trump either disagreed with or was afraid of something
      Yes, Trump is quick to fire when things don't go his way.

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