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    Politics - Thread: Trump and the Porn Star

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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      I'm not sure it shows any higher level of depravity just because the man was President at the time he had his affair.
      If he'd used an American flag to clean up afterwards, would that not represent anything to you other than that he was president at the time? Cmon.

      This is a very good point - people who dig out historical footage of Donald Trump as "proof" that he is racist miss the point that all sorts of things considered not only perfectly normal but widely expected a couple of decades ago are considered racist today. Chances are most of us over the age of about 40-50 have said or done things in the past that would now be considered racially offensive.
      I think that misses the point, too. The Left now uses the term against anyone it doesn't like for any reason. Trump is not a racist, so do we hearing it have to rationalize a bunch of excuses for a racism that is simply a political attack line?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      If he'd used an American flag to clean up afterwards, would that not represent anything to you other than that he was president at the time? Cmon.
      I guess I don't regard one particular room as being inherently more special than another. Truth be told if he had used a flag to clean up I'd regard it as an odd choice but to me a flag is a piece of cloth rather than being sacred.

      I think that misses the point, too. The Left now uses the term against anyone it doesn't like for any reason. Trump is not a racist, so do we hearing it have to rationalize a bunch of excuses for a racism that is simply a political attack line?
      Sure, the term "racism" is one of many used to shut down a discussion and essentially means little more than "I don't like what you're saying but can't counter it so here's an accusation to deflect the discussion". I raised the racism thing because of what you said about looking at the lives of previous presidents before they took office.
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      Hmm. I used as a description the word depravity and in only two posts that was turned into (against something) sacred. Wow

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      Hmm. I used as a description the word depravity and in only two posts that was turned into (against something) sacred. Wow
      OK, if you really want to nitpick my choice of words rather than the issue... I don't see that one room is inherently more special than another, and I don't see a flag as inherently more special than any other piece of cloth. I would regard it as surprising if a head of state were to use their own national flag to clean up the results of an illicit dalliance but don't see it as inherently any more indicative of depravity than using any other cloth.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      OK, if you really want to nitpick my choice of words rather than the issue... I don't see that one room is inherently more special than another, and I don't see a flag as inherently more special than any other piece of cloth. I would regard it as surprising if a head of state were to use their own national flag to clean up the results of an illicit dalliance but don't see it as inherently any more indicative of depravity than using any other cloth.
      Lack of respect not only for the flag but also for those who sacrificed and died for it. Speaks volumes about the person
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      President Trump does not represent Christian values or virtues, but his sins in the White House pale to that of Warren G Harding who may have been the most immoral President of all time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      Lack of respect not only for the flag but also for those who sacrificed and died for it. Speaks volumes about the person
      Who died for a flag? The flag isn't the same as the country.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      Who died for a flag? The flag isn't the same as the country.
      It is representative of the country and a symbol of it, why are you always so difficulyt with what is common definitions? Talk to most people and they would agree with what I said so to me it shows a llack of respect and decency to disrespect the flag, very unpatriotic
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      It is representative of the country and a symbol of it, why are you always so difficulyt with what is common definitions? Talk to most people and they would agree with what I said so to me it shows a llack of respect and decency to disrespect the flag, very unpatriotic
      The flag is representative of the country. The flag isn't the country. I'm not being difficult - I'm merely pointing out that people don't fight and die for a piece of cloth, they fight and die for the country represented by the piece of cloth.
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