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    Politics - Thread: Trump and the Porn Star

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      And I was merely using an example of something that most people would consider to be dishonorable, especially vulgar, something an elected official of the United States ought have more respect for his country than to do. I could have used a dozen other examples instead of this one.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      And I was merely using an example of something that most people would consider to be dishonorable, especially vulgar, something an elected official of the United States ought have more respect for his country than to do. I could have used a dozen other examples instead of this one.
      So why not shift to a different one... it appears attitudes to buildings and flags are different in the US than in the UK.
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      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      My example was apt. It's just that I wasn't inviting a discussion about flag usage!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      My example was apt. It's just that I wasn't inviting a discussion about flag usage!
      OK, let's stick to the example.... it's just that you raised the issue of whether I'd be troubled if he used a flag to wipe up afterwards, and I said that it wouldn't particularly bother me. I'd regard it as unusual for a national leader to wipe up with their own flag but just don't see it as a matter of great concern.

      I thinkk we're agreed that in Clinton's case the problem was perjury rather than just what happened under the desk, and I think we're agreed in observing that those on one side howl about the other side's indiscretions while ignoring more or less identical behavior on their own side?
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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      I think we're agreed that in Clinton's case the problem was perjury rather than just what happened under the desk, and I think we're agreed in observing that those on one side howl about the other side's indiscretions while ignoring more or less identical behavior on their own side?
      Certainly not.

      I right away rejected the mistaken attempt to equate those two significantly different situations.

      You chose to focus on the words depravity and flag in my posts instead of what I was saying about the comparison between the events that involved Clinton and Trump.








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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      Certainly not.

      I right away rejected the mistaken attempt to equate those two significantly different situations.

      You chose to focus on the words depravity and flag in my posts instead of what I was saying about the comparison between the events that involved Clinton and Trump.








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      Perhaps you could clarify your stance then, I thought we were in agreement on at least something.
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      Indeed we are. I agreed with what you wrote back in post #13, which was the following:

      I must admit I also have to wonder if there's some other agenda at play here. It seems sex-related scandals are the go-to method to bring down a politician these days and, once the target has been taken down, everything goes quiet.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      If she signed an agreement not to talk about it--and received money for doing so--and now breaks that contract, YOU BET she should be sued!
      Trump never signed the contract. What are you yelling at me for??? Trying to intimidate me? Well, it didn't work dear.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      President Trump does not represent Christian values or virtues, but his sins in the White House pale to that of Warren G Harding who may have been the most immoral President of all time.
      http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...ves-mistresses
      You are so correct.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      We have had some very immoral Presidents over the course of nearly 250 years. Trump has stated that he has no need to repent. One thing I know is that we are all in need of repentance.
      As for removal from office. Clinton was not removed for sexual inpropriety in the office. I have no doubt Trump had affairs before being President. So far there is no evidence that he did anything wrong while acting as President.
      Not yet but I bet there will be during his presidency.

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