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    Bible Study - Thread: Who was Melchizedek?

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      Questions remain.
      Did he get his instructions about how to worship from God himself? Such as sacrifices?
      How did he know the nature of God?
      Is this a preincarnate Christ as some have said?
      How did Abram know him and who he was?
      I have heard the assumption that Melchizedek was a pre incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ.
      The name Melchizedek means King of righteousness and Salem being Peace Jesus is Prince of Peace.
      So there are some parallels however whether it was an incarnation of Jesus Christ we don’t truly know.



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      "Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ Romans 5:1

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      A few thoughts. (Not enough space to offer more at this stage.)

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      This was before the Levitical priest had begun or the Bible written.

      The Levitical priesthood was an integral part of God’s special, formal relationship with the nation Israel.

      However, prior to that, God had established individuals as priests and prophets.

      Melchizedek and Jethro were among them. (Note that in Exodus 2:16, Exodus 3:1, Exodus 18:1, Jethro is identified as “the priest of Midian. There were priests in other areas as well. Jethro was one of a number of priests. His later interaction with Moses seems to indicate that he was a priest appointed by God.)

      Balaam is an example of a prophet external to Israel, to whom God gave autonomous power and with whom God spoke directly.

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      They didn't even know God's name at the time.

      Job is acknowledged to be the oldest written narrative in the Bible. It predates the giving of the Law to Israel. Yet that book contains many references to Yahweh. At that stage, Yahweh was being used as a title, acknowledging His revelation of Himself to Mankind. – the “self-existing one”. It was at a special meeting that God revealed to Moses that His former, most meaningful title was now to be used as His name.

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      Did he get his instructions about how to worship from God himself? Such as sacrifices?
      How did he know the nature of God?

      God had revealed all that to Adam and his sons.

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      How did Abram know him and who he was?

      One can reasonably assume that someone in the official retinue of the King of Salem (Salem was later named Jerusalem) formally introduced them. Important leader to important leader.

      Otherwise, he introduced himself.



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      Post #3, jsimms435:
      Is this a preincarnate Christ as some have said?

      It would seem not. Jesus’ priesthood is said to resemble that of Melchizedek. (Psalms 91 in Post #5 points that out.) Jesus’ priesthood began after His substitutionary death, His resurrection and His ascension.

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      Post #4, Josiah:
      IMO, this reveals that that God has something of a relationship with MORE and JUST His "chosen people." Interesting.... because SOME like to spin that Judaism started as simply a tribal religion, but I think this suggests that both Hebrews and non-Hebrews understood that God is the God of ALL and that ALL can have a relationship with Him.

      Before the nation of Israel was formed, and even during the wilderness journey, there were individually appointed prophets and priests.

      The pagans knew about the Great God (and His hatred of adultery) even if they did not want to acknowledge Him. (Genesis 20:1-18, Genesis 26:6-11)

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      Post #4, Josiah:
      Yeah.... the significance of this to Jesus is interesting. "After the order of Melchizedek." Interesting because this man is pretty obscure in the OT and yet.... Some suggest this has some connection to Jesus being the Great High Priest but was He of the right "tribe" (not a descendant of Aaron) within the Hebrew Old Covenant for such?

      Post #5, psalms 91
      Someone without beginning or end as far as the Word, Many think it was Jesus but I would say that the verse that says like Melchezadek discounts that.

      Post #6. psalms 91
      if he had no beginning or end then we can rule out man since it is appointed for all men to die once. Hebrews 9:27

      The whole point of the comparison was (is) to demonstrate the superiority of Jesus’ priesthood over the Levitical one.

      1. Melchizedek’s priesthood was shown to be superior to the Levitical one. (Hebrews 7:4-10)

      2. Melchizedek was individually and personally chosen and appointed to be a priest by God. His priesthood was not based upon genealogical descent. Just like our Saviour's. Nor was the temporal extent of his priesthood known (recorded), and thus notionally continued without end – unlike that of any Levitical priest. (Hebrews 7:3) Thus Melchizedek was a type (model, picture) of the future, individually God-appointed, Heaven-based, Great High Priest.

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      Post #4, Josiah:
      That's my worthless opinion...

      I would suggest that no-one’s opinion is worthless. We should however be willing to modify our opinions in the light of fresh evidence.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Pedrito View Post
      1. Melchizedek’s priesthood was shown to be superior to the Levitical one. (Hebrews 7:4-10)

      2. Melchizedek was individually and personally chosen and appointed to be a priest by God. His priesthood was not based upon genealogical descent. Just like our Saviour's. Nor was the temporal extent of his priesthood known (recorded), and thus notionally continued without end – unlike that of any Levitical priest. (Hebrews 7:3) Thus Melchizedek was a type (model, picture) of the future, individually God-appointed, Heaven-based, Great High Priest.[/COLOR][/B]
      I should think that more than chosen and appointed by God individually and personally, the Priesthood of Melchizedek is actually ordained by God directly without human intermediaries... The priesthood of the Ekklesia is the co-equivalent fulfillment of the Levitical Priesthood, whereas the Melchizedek Priesthood in that same Ekklesia is normally found in Her God-Bearing Saints, although some in the Priesthood actually are Saints as well...

      One question I asked at first when I looked at this issue was: "What is the discipleship of this Priesthood?"

      When we look at Christ, though growing up under the Law, He was not discipled in the Law, as was, say, David...

      He was disciped through His obedience to His Father...

      And Paul, discipled under the Law, shifted His discipling to the Risen Christ after being Baptized into Christ by Ananias, who restored to him his sight and filled him with the Holy Spirit...

      So the Order of Mechizedek seems to be quintessentially NOT the Priesthood where the laying on of hands ordains the Priest, but is instead that of God Himself discipling and Ordaining priests into its ranks...

      Yet there is a good argument for the Priesthood of the Ekklesia ordained by manumission as being Melchizedekian because these ordinations are now BY God Himself through the hands of His Servants...

      And remember, the Priesthood is quintessentially the Power to IMPART God's Grace to those in need...
      As Ananias did with Paul...

      So Pedrito, why are you sniffing around this topic?


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