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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Genesis story of creation "Days" literal or not?

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      It is actually irrelevant. People make much fuss about the similarities of Genesis to other Creation Stories in existence at that time. That is not an accident. A careful study of the differences will reveal that all other creation stories share certain common features and assumptions that Genesis clearly and unambiguously declares to be utterly false. Just one example, all other creation myths begin with a story about how the gods (multiple) all came into being ... Genesis 1:1 begins with the declaration and apriori assumption that there is only one God and he has no beginning, he was just there. Genesis is first and foremost a polemic refuting all other creation stories of the time and declaring God the one true God (with the implication that all other pantheons must be false).

      So one day or 5 billion years misses the point of Genesis ... God spoke reality into existence by the power of his will. That is WHO GOD IS.
      [Now personally, I can't really explain away things like dinosaurs and the Ark ... but the Bible has been right about so many things that I am not willing to bet against it. So I lean towards 6 literal 24-hour days.]

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      I see no reason to doubt that the days are intended literally. The wording "evening and morning" seems to make the intent pretty clear. Of course creation wasn't actually done in 6 days, but trying to interpret Gen 1 in some weird way so it can sort of agree with science seems like a losing battle.

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      I also believe in the gap theory.

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      The sun wasn't created until day four. How can we say a day is 24 hours in days 1-3? I have no problem with creation days being longer than 24 hours.

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      I believe in a 6 day creation with God resting on the 7th. I have absolutely no problem believing in it, nor do I have a problem with the red sea parting or a donkey speaking or the Son of Man dying on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of the world.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      The sun wasn't created until day four. How can we say a day is 24 hours in days 1-3? I have no problem with creation days being longer than 24 hours.
      I'm surprised to hear your okay with the creation days being longer than 24 hours as literal as you usually interpret things. I have no idea how a day was determined on days 1-3, but then it hardly really matters since nobody was there except God.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I believe in a 6 day creation with God resting on the 7th. I have absolutely no problem believing in it, nor do I have a problem with the red sea parting or a donkey speaking or the Son of Man dying on the cross for the forgiveness of the sins of the world.
      The reality of it is that God didn't need six days. I guess he felt like taking his time with it

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      The reality of it is that God didn't need six days. I guess he felt like taking his time with it
      You're right that He didn't need 6 days but He didn't create it for just Himself but chose to establish a week of time for His creations (that includes us).
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      Quote Originally Posted by jsimms435 View Post
      I'm surprised to hear your okay with the creation days being longer than 24 hours as literal as you usually interpret things. I have no idea how a day was determined on days 1-3, but then it hardly really matters since nobody was there except God.
      There was literally no sun for the first three days. On day one the earth was formless. How do we say the day was 24 hours long?
      As mentioned, God didn't need any time at all, but we have a recorded sequence of events.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      There was literally no sun for the first three days. On day one the earth was formless. How do we say the day was 24 hours long?
      As mentioned, God didn't need any time at all, but we have a recorded sequence of events.
      That might stand on it's own but for a verse like this: Exodus 20:10-11 where God makes a direct comparison to the days of a normal week to the days of Creation. In other words, if the Hebrews were to understand that no sun, moon stars for the first 3 days meant no definite time period, then they would have correctly questioned what God meant by "6 working days" and a rest day - because on the latter understanding it could literally mean anything.

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