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      Are Immigration Laws Racist?

      Are Immigration Laws Racist?

      I was reading an article on CNN and a black southern preacher claims that Immigration Laws are racist. Do you agree?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Are Immigration Laws Racist?

      I was reading an article on CNN and a black southern preacher claims that Immigration Laws are racist. Do you agree?
      I'd be interested to see why this person claims the laws are racist. These days it sometimes seems that everything is discriminating against somebody, if you believe the ones quickest to whine.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Are Immigration Laws Racist?

      I was reading an article on CNN and a black southern preacher claims that Immigration Laws are racist. Do you agree?
      Not racist, it's about money, well here. If you come from America, welcome, from a poor country: bye go away except when you're a muslim terrorist. I get that they get sick and tired of paying for all those ppl, but the rules are antisocial now.
      If an American wants to marry a Dutch and live here: welcome! A Brazilian: Go first do our get like us course and those questions are horrible oh then you still cant come unless you bring money.

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      And if Trump wants all those ppl out let him kick his own wife out too. Double standards.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Are Immigration Laws Racist? I was reading an article on CNN....
      That appears to be where you went wrong.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Imalive View Post
      And if Trump wants all those ppl out let him kick his own wife out too. Double standards.
      To the best of my knowledge, his wife is a LEGAL immigrant and a citizen. Do you have information to the contrary?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      To the best of my knowledge, his wife is a LEGAL immigrant and a citizen. Do you have information to the contrary?
      So what? They let her in. America is not as antisocial as Holland, but if he'd be the boss here and tell someone's wife from such a country that she cant come over then he'd have to kick his wife out too. The comparison isnt so good. But it is nice and cosy to get your wife from another country but kick the others out. His lookalike here is the same. Has a wife from Roemenia, but the other Roemenians he wants to kick out cause he's racist. He's not ruling though.

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      It's not racism, but national socialism like w Hitler. Own ppl first. Double rules. A person who wants to come and work here from Africa may not come, yet a lazy Dutch drugaddict who refuses to work gets taken care of. Then you can better do it like it used to be in America: welcome, but arrange your own house and work for your money.
      Problem is of course all these ISIS jerks, so no problem discriminating on those and kicking those out. Problem is not every muslim is an ISIS jerk and some are persecuted by em, but how can you see who is who?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Imalive View Post
      So what? They let her in.
      The 'so what' is that your claim of a double standard is completely wrong.

      You were trying to make two very different situations look like they are the same. What's more, the President has clearly and frequently made the distinction, so no one should be misrepresenting his stance.

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      There's also a huge difference between people who want to move to a new country to build a new life and contribute to society in their new home, people who want to flee persecution and build a new life somewhere safer (contributing to their new host society), and people who just want to go where they get the most free stuff and live like a leech on the back of everybody else.

      Personally I'd opt for a looser immigration policy with a much tighter welfare policy, that effectively says you're welcome to come and live here unless there's a specific reason you're considered undesirable (e.g. a criminal, terrorist etc) but don't expect anybody to be paying for you to live here. If you want to come and live in an expensive city like London, New York, LA etc then have at it, but be aware that the streets are cold at night if you can't afford a place to live.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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