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    Politics - Thread: First President a Lutheran?

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      First President a Lutheran?

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      A lot of Americans falsely believe that our current Constitution and Government took effect on July 5, 1776. Not so..... It would be over 11 years before that would happen.

      Yes, as we all learned in school, George Washington was the first President in our CURRENT government, under our CURRENT Constitution. And yes, he was an Anglican. But he took office 11 years after the USA began.

      Many regard the first actual president of the USA to be John Hanson…that's right. And you've probably never heard of him. And he's not on any American currency. And his birthday has never been celebrated in our country. And school children have never heard of him.

      Oh, and by the way, he was a Lutheran. Yeah, no president under our current constitution has ever been a Lutheran. But Lutherans can claim the first US President! Well, sort of.

      Prior to the Constitution, which established our system of government, there was a document called the Articles of Confederation. Although a flawed document, it was the first official "constitution". As with any political document, it took some time to hammer out the details. In 1781, after 4 years of negotiating, the last state to holdout- Maryland- ratified the document. The signer, a Lutheran named John Hanson, was then asked to serve as the president of the now official congress.

      Here’s where the controversy begins. Some claim this makes John Hanson -not George Washington- the first President of the United States. However, since the Articles of Confederation did not officially establish an executive branch, it might be said Hanson was more the first President of Congress rather than President of the USA (and even then he was more a secretary than a leader). In any case, he served his one year term competently but without much flair (although he's the one who designed the current seal of the president).

      The United States has yet to see a Lutheran president. Hubert H. Humphrey, who served as Vice President under Lyndon Johnson from 1965-1970 and was the Democrat Nominee for president in 1968, is the closest a Lutheran has come to being president, but he of course lost to the second Quaker president: Richard Nixon.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      Many regard the first actual president of the USA to be John Hanson…that's right. And you've probably never heard of him.
      If hardly anyone has heard of John Hanson (as you suggested), we can't very well say "Many regard (him to be the first president)"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      If hardly anyone has heard of John Hanson (as you suggested), we can't very well say "Many regard (him to be the first president)"
      I've heard of him
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      Considering that the Articles of Confederation gave the federal government about as much power as a kindergarten student in a high school classroom, I suppose Lutherans can pat themselves on the back. Well done you Lutherans! Huzzah!!!

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      what was your point?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I've heard of him
      As have I, but are we really unbiased sources?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Confessional Lutheran View Post
      As have I, but are we really unbiased sources?
      I was taught about him in elementary social studies class and jr high history class. I don't think I'm biased because I went to public school
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
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      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I was taught about him in elementary social studies class and jr high history class. I don't think I'm biased because I went to public school
      The Catholics must of found out that it was being taught in public schools, had the funding pulled and the documentations erased from the text books!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I've heard of him
      Quote Originally Posted by Confessional Lutheran View Post
      As have I, but are we really unbiased sources?
      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I was taught about him in elementary social studies class and jr high history class. I don't think I'm biased because I went to public school
      Of COURSE you know him ... ALL Lutherans must know ALL OTHER Lutherans.
      It's written in the By-Laws, Article 3 Section C under the Subtitle:

      "We IS The Only REAL Presence Tense Christians''

      Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
      The Catholics must of found out that it was being taught in public schools, had the funding pulled and the documentations erased from the text books!
      Too funny, Tigger
      Glad I didnt say it, lol
      ~Deliberate ignorance
      is anti-christian~

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I was taught about him in elementary social studies class and jr high history class. I don't think I'm biased because I went to public school
      So did I. I also made it a point to go beyond what they were teaching in history class and learned little things like the leadership of John Hanson and the fact that when the Revolution started, it was largely a scheme of the upper class to keep their wealth and they used excellent propaganda to keep the rank and file in line. My social studies were decent, but a lot of it centered around Virginia's history.

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