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    Christian Advice Requested - Thread: First Commandment

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      First Commandment

      Thou shalt have no other gods before me

      What is the main reason God emphasised "no other gods" if by default the israelites must have already accepted the one true God of Abraham? If any worshipped another god why would they even bother with these commandments?
      Not to be confused with the 2nd commandment "Thou shalt not worship any graven image", not to adapt in gentile worship.
      Even in polytheistic Egypt they still served Yahweh hence what made them so different, so shouldn't they serve him by default without the commandment instructing them to? (in theory, not arguing with Yahweh ) lest they follow another god in which they would just toss out all the commandments.
      Or did they think they could throw in some extra/side gods along with their one monotheistic God, which goes against their monotheistic faith?


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      Our "god" is whatever is #1 in our lives, whatever we'd be willing to dump everything else for....

      Often people think of material things as "gods" in people's lives, but I think often health and family are what is #1.


      When we claim we are "monotheists," it means NOTHING is put in that #1 spot but the true Lord God.



      - Josiah
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      Our "god" is whatever is #1 in our lives, whatever we'd be willing to dump everything else for....

      Often people think of material things as "gods" in people's lives, but I think often health and family are what is #1.


      When we claim we are "monotheists," it means NOTHING is put in that #1 spot but the true Lord God.



      - Josiah
      So basically idolatry?
      and the 2 commandment would be not so much as personal idolatry but rather making an image of him with man made statues and such. right?
      Can you give me some examples of putting God first? I can see doing certain things and considering God above it so it becomes Godly in all ways and not in vain. When you say "gods" I think of other types of refuge besides him such as alcoholism or pornography addiction etc.
      Pastor gave a really good sermon on serving other "gods" without actually listing any spiritual "refuge" but I understood the message non the less

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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      Thou shalt have no other gods before me

      What is the main reason God emphasised "no other gods" if by default the israelites must have already accepted the one true God of Abraham? If any worshipped another god why would they even bother with these commandments?
      Not to be confused with the 2nd commandment "Thou shalt not worship any graven image", not to adapt in gentile worship.
      Even in polytheistic Egypt they still served Yahweh hence what made them so different, so shouldn't they serve him by default without the commandment instructing them to? (in theory, not arguing with Yahweh ) lest they follow another god in which they would just toss out all the commandments.
      Or did they think they could throw in some extra/side gods along with their one monotheistic God, which goes against their monotheistic faith?


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      The first commandment is Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      The first commandment is Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
      Im talking about the other 1rst one

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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      Im talking about the other 1rst one

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      Jesus said that the one quoted in my post is the first and the greatest commandment. I reckon he'd know.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Jesus said that the one quoted in my post is the first and the greatest commandment. I reckon he'd know.
      I know
      Im just picking on you

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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      I know
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      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      Thou shalt have no other gods before me

      What is the main reason God emphasised "no other gods" if by default the israelites must have already accepted the one true God of Abraham? If any worshipped another god why would they even bother with these commandments?
      Not to be confused with the 2nd commandment "Thou shalt not worship any graven image", not to adapt in gentile worship.
      Even in polytheistic Egypt they still served Yahweh hence what made them so different, so shouldn't they serve him by default without the commandment instructing them to? (in theory, not arguing with Yahweh ) lest they follow another god in which they would just toss out all the commandments.
      Or did they think they could throw in some extra/side gods along with their one monotheistic God, which goes against their monotheistic faith?


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      I haven't read the responses on the thread but looking at your questions brings back a bible study with my previous pastor who had a deep love for history. Knowing the history helps it to make sense. Time and time again, God's people kept turning away from Him even days after declaring their utmost devotion! God is the one who kept turning them back to Him (repentance) and He still does the same for us as (lo, I will be with you all the days Jesus declared).

      When we break that commandment, we have broken them all.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      The beginning of the commandments given at mount Sinai is this

      I am the Lord your God, who led you away from the land of Egypt, out of the house of servitude. You shall not have strange gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, nor a likeness of anything that is in heaven above or on earth below, nor of those things which are in the waters under the earth. You shall not adore them, nor shall you worship them. I am the Lord your God: strong, zealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the sons to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing mercy to thousands of those who love me and keep my precepts. [Exodus 20:2-6]

      No false gods of any kind visible or invisible.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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