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      Maybe bullet control, $200 dollars a pop for self defense only. That way they wont carelessly fire em off into the crowds.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      At church today one lady asked "how many mass shootings will it take before they (USA citizens) say "enough!" and demand laws to tightly control gun ownership?".

      I guess it may take many more.

      God grant grace and eternal peace to the people killed.
      The trouble is the intention to harm others rather than the tool used. If it's not a gun it's an explosive or a truck driven into a crowd or a nutter running around with a knife. Perhaps the issue is the availability and quality of mental health care rather than restricting specific items that might be misused.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      Maybe bullet control, $200 dollars a pop for self defense only. That way they wont carelessly fire em off into the crowds.
      If you're not planning to survive an attack like this you'll just buy a load on the credit card you'll never have to repay. Besides, to use a gun effectively for self defence you need to practise using it, so making bullets cost $200 each would be counterproductive.

      On top of that it's almost impossible to prevent someone who has decided they want to harm other people. Back in my school days (which was quite a few years ago now) a friend created a contraption that could fire a ball bearing through six inches of wood using a bunch of stuff he bought at an everyday hardware store and an everyday garden center without even being asked questions about what he was doing.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
      If you're not planning to survive an attack like this you'll just buy a load on the credit card you'll never have to repay. Besides, to use a gun effectively for self defence you need to practise using it, so making bullets cost $200 each would be counterproductive.

      On top of that it's almost impossible to prevent someone who has decided they want to harm other people. Back in my school days (which was quite a few years ago now) a friend created a contraption that could fire a ball bearing through six inches of wood using a bunch of stuff he bought at an everyday hardware store and an everyday garden center without even being asked questions about what he was doing.
      Thats true, I honestly feel that a counter weapon would eventually replace guns if they banned them. The rock was the very first technology used for killing another man (Cain and Abel) and anyone can look online on how to make explosives out of household items. I suggested the bullet theory because I heard Chris Rock once going on about it after columbine. I always wondered if it could be actually taken seriously, they can always practise with blanks, yet I know man from the backwoods that makes his own bullets from sulfate compounds

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      That's most likely true. We have seen that Islamist terrorists have taken to using knives or machetes or trucks and they've accounted for just as severe killing sprees as the incident in Texas or, for that matter, most of the other recent mass murders such as the killings in the church in Charleston, SC.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Gun control works with law abiding citizens who have no mental issues. Anyone can get a gun if they approach the right people so gun control isn't part of the problem. We need to work more concerning mental health and in big cities like Chicago start cracking down on the gangs. The gangs have an entirely different mindset and guns to them are power.
      Doesnt work either. You can't cure a killer w mental health stuff. They need to check em in prison good and lock em up for life unless they repent and get baptized. Maybe get some more christians in those prisons or things where they stay who can discern if someone is lying or really changed.
      And why was he allowed near his kid and not checked by the youth care ppl? Goodness my kids they took from me and such ppl can just walk around and take care of their kids.
      Last edited by Imalive; 11-06-2017 at 12:16 PM.

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      These people obviously have no fear of the Lord if they are shooting up his children.
      The criminally insane have no remorse just look at btk or Dahmer. That kid that shot up that church a few years ago (i believe) was even forgiven by the victims family but he didnt care and showed no remorse at all, quite the opposite.
      They might not even have a past and just snap.
      The glory shows through Gods people, they had no guns on them for self defense and they died in worship, a neighbor did however run the man off with gunfire. Anyone with mental issues should not have weapons and should be watched carefully, but we will always have some nut driving over a crowd of people or something.

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      This is so very sad. I have no words.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      At church today one lady asked "how many mass shootings will it take before they (USA citizens) say "enough!" and demand laws to tightly control gun ownership?".

      I guess it may take many more.

      God grant grace and eternal peace to the people killed.
      Criminals nor the criminally insane really care if they break gun laws or not.

      They would 9nly work to disarm law abiding citizens, making them Eben more of targets.
      Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

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      Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
      Criminals nor the criminally insane really care if they break gun laws or not.

      They would 9nly work to disarm law abiding citizens, making them Eben more of targets.
      Yes that works in Holland to forbid weapons, but not in America. Anyone can get a weapon if they want to there. What if they all ban them? Some psycho can hide one and noone will find out.
      They should have checked that guy. He had already been in prison a year for assaulting his wife and kid. In Holland they pay close attention to you then. We've had a bit too much dads killing their kids when the mom wanted a divorce. They treated me like the Gestapo because of that. I couldnt see my kids without supervision because I did a suicide attempt. Yet someone like that can walk free, be w his kid and buy weapons and post it on Facebook.

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