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      It SEEMS no one is recognizing its independence. It's been some days and not one country has recognized it.

      Unless there is some mass movement by other countries to do that SOON, I think the declaration is dead in the water. For now, anyway.

      We'll see
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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      It SEEMS no one is recognizing its independence. It's been some days and not one country has recognized it.

      Unless there is some mass movement by other countries to do that SOON, I think the declaration is dead in the water. For now, anyway.

      We'll see
      No doubt. I believe that the Spanish government has started arresting the Catalan leaders.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Confessional Lutheran View Post
      One may hope, but who knows?
      Arresting elected leaders is not helping. Spain needs to back away from the arrests and start serious and significant negotiations before they create a civil war.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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