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      Hero worship?

      Gord Downie, of the Canadian band 'Tragically Hip', passed away last night at 53 y.o. I was/am a fan of their music, and was aware of them many years ago, although they had been primarily a Canadian act. he passed away from an aggressive form of brain cancer, and spent his last years bringing awareness of cancer, and supporting Canadian indigenous/Native rights.

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      What has ensued today is nothing short of a placing a man on a pedestal. He has been given a sort of 'icon' status now that began when his cancer diagnosis was brought to light, but he, himself, seemed to be quite humble.

      What do we do with our tendency toward cultural "hero worship"?

      RIP Gord Downie
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      Last edited by Josiah; 10-18-2017 at 10:24 PM.
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      "Heros" can be a good thing. It's good to have models, examples, people who live exemplary lives.... We have a rich tradition in Christianity with the "saints". I think it helps to see REAL people in the REAL world - doing well and good. Mother Theresa sure comes to my mind.... I think of people too who rose above terrible conditions and realities - and are inspirations for those of us who struggle at times.

      Of course, we need to remember that these are sinners..... they have their flaws and sins. In part, in a way, that actually helps make them heros (they are REAL).

      It's just that I think our modern culture not infrequently chooses odd heroes....
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      Gord Downie, of the Canadian band 'Tragically Hip', passed away last night at 53 y.o. I was/am a fan of their music, and was aware of them many years ago, although they had been primarily a Canadian act. he passed away from an aggressive form of brain cancer, and spent his last years bringing awareness of cancer, and supporting Canadian indigenous/Native rights.

      But...

      What has ensued today is nothing short of a placing a man on a pedestal. He has been given a sort of 'icon' status now that began when his cancer diagnosis was brought to light, but he, himself, seemed to be quite humble.

      What do we do with our tendency toward cultural "hero worship"?

      RIP Gord Downie
      Give the Canadian media a week, and they'll be over it and back to making fun of Trump.

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      Quote Originally Posted by IACOBVS View Post
      Give the Canadian media a week, and they'll be over it and back to making fun of Trump.
      Donald is good for joke makers the world over

      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
      "Heros" can be a good thing. It's good to have models, examples, people who live exemplary lives.... We have a rich tradition in Christianity with the "saints". I think it helps to see REAL people in the REAL world - doing well and good. Mother Theresa sure comes to my mind.... I think of people too who rose above terrible conditions and realities - and are inspirations for those of us who struggle at times.

      Of course, we need to remember that these are sinners..... they have their flaws and sins. In part, in a way, that actually helps make them heros (they are REAL).

      It's just that I think our modern culture not infrequently chooses odd heroes....
      Yes or the faith heros from Hebrews 11.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryDay2 View Post
      Gord Downie, of the Canadian band 'Tragically Hip', passed away last night at 53 y.o. I was/am a fan of their music, and was aware of them many years ago, although they had been primarily a Canadian act. he passed away from an aggressive form of brain cancer, and spent his last years bringing awareness of cancer, and supporting Canadian indigenous/Native rights.

      But...

      What has ensued today is nothing short of a placing a man on a pedestal. He has been given a sort of 'icon' status now that began when his cancer diagnosis was brought to light, but he, himself, seemed to be quite humble.

      What do we do with our tendency toward cultural "hero worship"?

      RIP Gord Downie
      Hero worship is idolatry. Programs like Idols, the name already says it.

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      Oftentimes the way a news event is reported includes rhetoric that is meant to make the person exposed to it feel, or made to think they should feel - part of "the collective consciousness" in whatever agenda they are selling. Certain statements are presented as if they were common knowledge even though they may not be necessarily true or mostly true and not exaggerated. When looking up this gentlemen's death just on youtube - I found a news story that was just the kind of thing I think fits your description of "hero worship". It's full of flowery praise and exultation of a person - and it immediately makes me suspicious. Of course - everything they say could be true - but I'm wondering why they are making the deal of it that they are - ie: what other info are they trying to sell me by appealing to my emotions and empathy first? Can't always figure it - but it's often there somewhere.

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      Corrie ten Boom once preached somewhere and they announced her as the wonderful selfless terrific woman. Lol God said: tell em the truth and she shared how she had just gone to a meeting in Africa where a lot of ppl got saved, but she wanted the meeting to stop, because those mosquitos were bothering her and it was terribly hot.

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      The people who are of this world and not saved are getting all of the reward they will ever get during this lifetime and then they experience hell. While the saved often get no reward or little on this earth and then get eternal life and reward in heaven. I would rather be in the second group. The world can worship whoever they want. It makes no difference to me. I'm looking for the Lord's approval and heavenly rewards

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