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To refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain ‘the last best hope of earth’ for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history.

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An Australian is under no obligation to follow the USA. You are neither a citizen or resident of the USA. You may - if you choose - not watch any films made in the USA or take any medications developed or manufactured in the USA or buy any products developed or made in the USA or board any airplane developed or made in the USA or use anything invented in the USA. No one is forcing you to do so. You don't even have to pay taxes to the USA or pledge anything to the King or Queen of the USA (we got rid of such, a long time ago).
 

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To refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain ‘the last best hope of earth’ for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history.

Good or bad?

It's a pretty arrogant comment on McCain's part, however, he's not quite as cracked as the president.
 

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To refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain ‘the last best hope of earth’ for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history.

Good or bad?

Without the context it's just a load of words that mean little.
 

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To refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain ‘the last best hope of earth’ for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history.

Good or bad?

I don't recall our country being appointed " international cop" by the United Nations or anybody else. If we only could be left to ourselves so we can work on some serious social problems that plague our dear country, maybe the rest of the world wouldn't feel obligated to point out every last mistake we've made as a country for the last century.
 

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Without the context it's just a load of words that mean little.

It's from a speech by a USA Republican Senator from Arizona.
 

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It's a pretty arrogant comment on McCain's part, however, he's not quite as cracked as the president.

As far as I can tell the only senior politician that's more cracked than Donald is Kim Jung Un.
 

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I don't recall our country being appointed " international cop" by the United Nations or anybody else. If we only could be left to ourselves so we can work on some serious social problems that plague our dear country, maybe the rest of the world wouldn't feel obligated to point out every last mistake we've made as a country for the last century.

Senator John McCain made the comment in italics in the first post of this thread. I suspect he is in Donald's bad books.
 

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Senator John McCain made the comment in italics in the first post of this thread. I suspect he is in Donald's bad books.

Ah, John McCain, the Human Waffle! He needs to stop playing Republican and just go on over to the Democratic side.
 

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Ah, John McCain, the Human Waffle! He needs to stop playing Republican and just go on over to the Democratic side.

Not too long ago he was the Republican nominee for President. He did make a mistake by choosing Sara Palin ... that probably helped him to lose the election to Barack Obama. Such is life. I liked him when he was running for President. At the time I wished it was a contest between him and Hillary Clinton. But Barack managed to win the Democratic Party nomination and despite his disappointing performance as President - being unable to persuade Republican Senators and House Republicans to support his policies - he did manage the nations rather well. He managed to get it out of the economic tragedy that G W Bush helped to create. Pity nobody could stop G W Bush from invading Iraq ... that's been a terrible mess since.
 

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It's from a speech by a USA Republican Senator from Arizona.

It's still not much use without the context. Without context it says little more than "we're doing one thing and I think we should be doing something else", which is about as useless a statement as it's possible to make.
 

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To refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain ‘the last best hope of earth’ for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history.

Good or bad?
Bad. At this stage of his career, if the president said that the grass is green, I am absolutely confident that Senator McCain (the speaker you are quoting here) would contact the media and issue a statement saying it is red or some other color.

He may have a good reason for resenting the president or he may simply crave the spotlight in the twilight of his career, thinking the world would have been a better place if only he had been elected instead of either Obama or Trump, but this is the reputation he has earned recently.
 

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Bad. At this stage of his career, if the president said that the grass is green, I am absolutely confident that Senator McCain (the speaker you are quoting here) would contact the media and issue a statement saying it is red or some other color.

He may have a good reason for resenting the president or he may simply crave the spotlight in the twilight of his career, thinking the world would have been a better place if only he had been elected instead of either Obama or Trump, but this is the reputation he has earned recently.

The best steersmen are ashore.
 
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