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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: The Triune God.

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      The Triune God.


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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      "Anyone then who desires to be saved
      should think thus about the trinity."

      And that they just made up themselves. They don't give one Bible text for that.

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      I just wanted to post as staff here that the Christian Theology forum here on the site is for Trinitarian Christians so if you would like responses from non-trinitarians this thread could be moved to another part of the site.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
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      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by Imalive View Post
      "Anyone then who desires to be saved
      should think thus about the trinity."

      And that they just made up themselves. They don't give one Bible text for that.
      You didn't read the article then because there are dozens of verses cited.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I just wanted to post as staff here that the Christian Theology forum here on the site is for Trinitarian Christians so if you would like responses from non-trinitarians this thread could be moved to another part of the site.
      Thank you for that clarification. I took this forum to be a place where theology is addressed in general. Yes, please move this thread to an appropriate forum so that all can participate.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Thank you for that clarification. I took this forum to be a place where theology is addressed in general. Yes, please move this thread to an appropriate forum so that all can participate.
      This has now been moved to the World Religion and Speculative Theology forum where all may participate.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by Imalive View Post
      "Anyone then who desires to be saved
      should think thus about the trinity."

      And that they just made up themselves. They don't give one Bible text for that.
      Well, I clicked on the link YOU gave us and found that there are dozens of Bible quotes given there! I would almost say innumerable references.

      So its patently incorrect to say that someone just made all this up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      Well, I clicked on the link YOU gave us and found that there are dozens of Bible quotes given there! I would almost say innumerable references.

      So its patently incorrect to say that someone just made all this up.
      Not the Bible texts, but that if you don't believe it exactly like they say you can't be saved.
      You have to believe Jesus is YHWH and that He came in the flesh and God raised Him from the dead in order to be saved. Thats in the Bible. One essence is not in the Bible, thats vague.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Imalive View Post
      Not the Bible texts, but that if you don't believe it exactly like they say you can't be saved.
      You have to believe Jesus is YHWH and that He came in the flesh and God raised Him from the dead in order to be saved. Thats in the Bible. One essence is not in the Bible, thats vague.
      Let us be frank about this. Of course, no one wants to think that he is going to lose salvation if he gets some doctrine wrong, but there is Scriptural evidence that it may be so...and if you or I don't even know who Jesus IS (as opposed to some lesser doctrinal issue like when the world will end or whether wine or grape juice is to be used in the Lords Supper), then that would matter I think, yes! How can anyone say that they believe in Jesus--but they themselves don't know who he is?

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      The creeds about the Trinity and the Incarnation are important for teaching what is true. Memorising them is helpful but not essential. Making a mistake when you recite them is forgivable; nobody thinks you will go to hell for making a mistake in recitation. What is important is the teaching that the creeds contain. Understanding that God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is important. Understanding that the Son was made flesh and dwelt among us is important. Understanding that the Spirit of God enables the faithful to live their lives as Christians is important. Those are the things that the creeds point Christians to. When somebody says "hey! the word "trinity" is not in the bible so it is not biblical" they are making a mistake and can be forgiven but when they insist that unless the bible contains the word "trinity" or they will refuse to believe it and hence reject the Trinity then that is serious and if never repented of will lead to final separation from God in hell. That is also what the creeds teach. It is what Jesus taught and what the apostles taught. It is, in short, what the bible teaches.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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