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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Ask a Christian - Pauline Christianity - a religion of the State?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess the pope doesn't get a word from the Lord.
      No, that is the whole point isn't it. Popes never claim to be recipients of public revelations from God and completely reject any suggestion that anything they say or wrote is inspired but protestants who are ignorant of Catholic teaching keep saying that he does and is.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      No, that is the whole point isn't it. Popes never claim to be recipients of public revelations from God and completely reject any suggestion that anything they say or wrote is inspired but protestants who are ignorant of Catholic teaching keep saying that he does and is.
      402 "For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      402 "For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.
      I bet you don't have a clue what that means
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      I bet you don't have a clue what that means
      The pope, the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      The pope, the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth.
      Yep, you don't have a clue what it means. Not a clue.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      Yep, you don't have a clue what it means. Not a clue.
      Funny how the pope takes a pagan title.
      The Pontifex Maximus (Latin, literally: "greatest pontiff" or "greatest bridge-builder") was the high priest of the College of Pontiffs (Collegium Pontificum) in ancient Rome. This was the most important position in the ancient Roman religion.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      Funny how the pope takes a pagan title.
      The Pontifex Maximus (Latin, literally: "greatest pontiff" or "greatest bridge-builder") was the high priest of the College of Pontiffs (Collegium Pontificum) in ancient Rome. This was the most important position in the ancient Roman religion.
      It's a Latin title (not pagan) and it means Great bridge builder
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoreCoffee View Post
      It's a Latin title (not pagan) and it means Great bridge builder
      The pagan high priest held the title in ancient Rome. Care to excuse your pontiff some more?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      The pagan high priest held the title in ancient Rome. Care to excuse your pontiff some more?
      I like his title as great bridge builder. It explains what a Christian leader ought to be.
      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
      God raises up all nations and tears them down by his ordination. This includes the ones we consider extraordinarily evil.
      Habakkuk 1:5-7
      [5]The lord replied, “Look around at the nations; look and be amazed! For I am doing something in your own day, something you wouldn’t believe even if someone told you about it.
      [6]I am raising up the Babylonians, a cruel and violent people. They will march across the world and conquer other lands.
      [7]They are notorious for their cruelty and do whatever they like.
      Yes, he did use Assyria and Babylon to judge Israel and Judea in different periods of time. It is an example of how God can use even evil people to fulfill his purposes. However, he didn't approve of all of their deeds. If he did, he would not have gone on to judge them also. There are plenty of references to the judgment of both Assyria and Babylon. If they were simply doing what he asked them to do then it would have been cruel to turn around and judge them for it.

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