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    Denomination & Faith Movement Discussions - Thread: Gift of Tongues

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      All right, but I did ask a question in posts 56 and 58 that never got an answer, so that's where I remain. I know that you've had a new experience and it's been good for you, but when we evaluate the highly controversial issue of tongues-speaking, it doesn't seem sufficient to me to simply dismiss the question of the genuineness of today's tongues by saying that they look kinda like the tongues we see referred to in scripture.

      We wouldn't do that with all the other practices and doctrines of other denominations. We quite reasonably ask if they are Scriptural, not just popular or exciting. Whichever side of the issue a person is on, we want to know if infant baptism is right or not, if praying to saints is proper to do, if the communion bread is changed into Christ's real flesh, etc. etc. But when it comes to tongues-speaking, it seems that no one is supposed to question whether it's a genuine gift or not according to any of the half-dozen or so competing theories offered by Pentecostal Christians.
      I thought I answered it when I posted how Paul describes tongues as drawing in unbelievers and becoming saved, they become believers and can testify that this IS of God no question about it. In my personal experience I likewise know for sure it isnt just a feeling. When that preacher put his hands on me my mouth flowed out an unknown language with no mind to it, that is not natural it doesnt just happen. I cant agree that tongues can be practised at home like you might have heard, i never spoke or tried to speak in tongues in fact I never even really looked into it until after it happened, i wasnt prepared but I know it was Holy because I walked out a completely changed man when before I was a believer unrepented but then I felt judgment come upon me and im freed of a filthy lifestyle that i had lived

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      Quote Originally Posted by Imalive View Post
      That's another sort of tongues. Still happens. But Paul also said if you speak in tongues in church and bystanders come they'll think it's rubbish, so that's exactly what we're doing today LOL.
      I have a feeling this is one scripture that those who do not believe have ripped out of their bibles. Fact is that there is both toungues like it or not. QAs I said it is fear, fear of fakes, fear of many things that makes people deny the simple truth of the bible
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      So...today's tongues are Biblical and Apostolic...except when they're not?


      It's proving awkward to discuss this issue when there's no agreed-upon view of tongues among the very people who are advocating the practice.
      Personally the definition is easy it is the twisting that is complicated and also I have been down this road many times and a big reason why I dont like discussing outside of pentecostals, I am just glad that I am not alone here or it wouldnt be discussed at all as far as I am concerned
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Yama kiama bushandi tikka tikka bansho yama.

      You figure it out

      Pope Gregory I was well known for his alms to the poor, and he gave quite generously of the riches donated to the Church by the wealthy people of Rome. Everything from money to land was given to the poor in some fashion. He made clear to his subordinates that their duty was to relieve the distress faced by the poor.

      He ordered his clergy to go out into the streets to find and care for the poor in person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
      I have a feeling this is one scripture that those who do not believe have ripped out of their bibles. Fact is that there is both toungues like it or not. QAs I said it is fear, fear of fakes, fear of many things that makes people deny the simple truth of the bible
      Frankly, I don't think there's any call for that kind of talk ("it is fear"..."those who ripped out of their bibles"..."deny the simple truth of the bible").

      When a brother asks if we know--and how we know--if ANY devotion or worship act is genuine or just an imitation, it deserves a straightforward answer with evidence and without the kind of language I read here.

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      A doubting Thomas needs a physical experience, wisdom comes from God so I have no wise words to say to get you to believe, seek and ye shall find. Amen

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      You might have needed one, but that's not the case with most people. It's the Gospel that won the world for Christ.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      You might have needed one, but that's not the case with most people. It's the Gospel that won the world for Christ.
      There ya go talking about the gospel as if it's life changing and how about that IT IS (jump for joy) and Peter preached the Gospel which is what converted unbelievers into believers and then what happened was they spoke about God in praise and His deeds!
      If you want to rile people up then go to a Christian site and give God ALL the glory for your salvation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
      You might have needed one, but that's not the case with most people. It's the Gospel that won the world for Christ.
      True, but what is faith without works or charity? Christ did save us by his work on the cross, but a blind and lost person doesnt just pick up the good book and start reading, dont question my works as i wont question your works, God knows thy works and charity. The op was addressed to speakers of tongues as i assumed many were and now know, no, many arent. Yet you all remained mindful as the conversation became food for thought.


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      Quote Originally Posted by DHoffmann View Post
      True, but what is faith without works or charity? Christ did save us by his work on the cross, but a blind and lost person doesnt just pick up the good book and start reading, dont question my works as i wont question your works, God knows thy works and charity. The op was addressed to speakers of tongues as i assumed many were and now know, no, many arent. Yet you all remained mindful as the conversation became food for thought.


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      Are we talking about Christ saving us or our living our lives now that he's got us saved because they're distinct and which is it for you, Christ alone or Christ and works for you to be saved? Ya know if you say Christ and works that it's boasting and it's not works so that no man boasts. Now if you're meaning only our living life after that conversion then why was getting saved brought up in the first place here? Hmm?
      If you want to rile people up then go to a Christian site and give God ALL the glory for your salvation.

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