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    World Religion & Speculative Theology - Thread: Poor Theology - follow the wide, easy path

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      Poor Theology - follow the wide, easy path

      "Look at how big that church is"
      "Look how many people go to that church"
      "That church just keeps growing"

      So they must be doing something right, right?

      Well, not necessarily.

      The early church showed a growth rate that any modern day church would love to see. But does that mean that any church that grows fast is automatically good? Some people seem to think it does, although like so much else it seems to be based on faulty logic.

      "If we're doing God's work faithfully we will grow" doesn't automatically imply "if we grow we must doing God's work faithfully". A church that is little more than a glorified social club can become very popular. Jesus talked of how few people would find the narrow path and how most people would take the wide path. So a church that is growing fast might be doing God's work and doing it well, or it might just be an ear-tickling outfit that rounds up lots of people from the wide path and makes them feel good about themselves. Temples and mosques have been known to enjoy meteoric growth too.

      It's certainly possible that a church grows fast as a result of being greatly blessed by God. But rapid growth in and of itself doesn't mean anything.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Absolutely true and it makes one tremble when you take that scripture and the one that says scarely the very elect will be saved except those days be shortened
      Isaiah 40:31

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      True. I will say though that if a church is a social club and is too worldly some people might say why would I want to join that as I see no difference from myself and my other friends.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dogs4thewin View Post
      True. I will say though that if a church is a social club and is too worldly some people might say why would I want to join that as I see no difference from myself and my other friends.
      Very true, although for some people a church that tickles their ears and makes them feel good is more palatable than a church that tells them they've grown too comfortable with the world and aren't very salty.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      You're right in that rapid growth of a church doesn't really mean that God is there more than in any other church. Some people attend church for all the wrong reasons and don't realize that God serves us in the service. He serves us His Word, feeding us, He serves us His body and blood in Communion, He serves us with absolution when we confess our sins.

      When looking at the Old Testament we see a time when His flock was small so for churches that NEED to have those huge numbers, always remember that God builds His church and does so in His timing. We want all to come to Christ and know the Savior but we don't need to do so with entertaining to lure them in really.

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      Totally agree, it is only God that builds His kingdom and all we can do is be willing instruments of the Holy Spirit because it is the Jesus others see in us and our testimony that will attract them and keep them. Worldly entertainment may draw them for awhile but most will wander
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Great thread, in my area I am amazed at the crowds drawn to Spirtualism / Mystic seminars.
      I walked into one held in a large public room a few years ago.
      Yuck magic rocks,some white guy doing a mystic Native American chant dance.

      In all the garbage I noticed one common theme..
      IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!
      Self awareness self empowered self everything.
      I know this is a extreme example but the hot tub Churches have the same type of mentally with some God mixed in.
      It comes down to a choice of worshipping the creature more than the Creator.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hebrews 11 View Post
      Great thread, in my area I am amazed at the crowds drawn to Spirtualism / Mystic seminars.
      I walked into one held in a large public room a few years ago.
      Yuck magic rocks,some white guy doing a mystic Native American chant dance.

      In all the garbage I noticed one common theme..
      IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!
      Self awareness self empowered self everything.
      I know this is a extreme example but the hot tub Churches have the same type of mentally with some God mixed in.
      It comes down to a choice of worshipping the creature more than the Creator.
      I seriously doubt they were worshiping a rock. Native American beliefs systems are very closely related to real Christianity. I find some belief systems difficult to comprehend. I also find many churches and priests focusing on self and members of the church as oppose to spreading the word as instructed. Of course its hard to read and comprehend to the point of proper execution of a directed task is one is preoccupied by greed.

      Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
      Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

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      Just to be clear the wide easy path surely isn't the one most don't relate to.

      Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
      Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

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      I am looking for a church to go to. I want one that gives hope to people who are struggling and that is what the one church I want to go to does. It is a come as you are church.

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