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    Ethics & Debate Center - Thread: Are dinosaurs in the bible?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bill1231 View Post
      I am talking more about a bridge between creation and evolution
      Yes, I was just speaking about the topic of whether there are dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible. Evolution cannot be denied without turning a blind eye to all kinds of evidence.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MarkFL View Post
      Yes, I was just speaking about the topic of whether there are dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible. Evolution cannot be denied without turning a blind eye to all kinds of evidence.
      Scientific evidence? You mean the kind that keeps changing every hundred years or so? Had to throw that in there!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      Scientific evidence? You mean the kind that keeps changing every hundred years or so? Had to throw that in there!
      The evidence doesn't change, only its interpretation as new evidence is found that increases our knowledge. Our understanding continually gets refined and evolves to get closer and closer to the truth, which is the real beauty of science. One thing that hasn't changed in the 150+ years since Darwin first published his theory is that it continues to be supported by new evidence as it comes to light. It has stood the test of time and is accepted by the scientific community as fact.

      There is much more evidence in support of evolution than there is for Einstein's theory of gravity (which is also well-supported by evidence), yet because general relativity doesn't contradict religious beliefs, there is no controversy.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MarkFL View Post
      The evidence doesn't change, only its interpretation as new evidence is found that increases our knowledge. Our understanding continually gets refined and evolves to get closer and closer to the truth, which is the real beauty of science. One thing that hasn't changed in the 150+ years since Darwin first published his theory is that it continues to be supported by new evidence as it comes to light. It has stood the test of time and is accepted by the scientific community as fact.

      There is much more evidence in support of evolution than there is for Einstein's theory of gravity (which is also well-supported by evidence), yet because general relativity doesn't contradict religious beliefs, there is no controversy.
      there is no such evidence ..only a choice of what we chose to believe. this is evident as there is much evidence throughout recent history .(last 1000 years )that man coexisted with dinosaurs .. but evolutionist "choose" to disbelieve it . conjecture is not evidence ..all so called evidence is disputable .
      and if evolution were true i will cut my wrists tomorrow for the futility of existence.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alithis View Post
      there is no such evidence ..only a choice of what we chose to believe. this is evident as there is much evidence throughout recent history .(last 1000 years )that man coexisted with dinosaurs .. but evolutionist "choose" to disbelieve it . conjecture is not evidence ..all so called evidence is disputable .
      and if evolution were true i will cut my wrists tomorrow for the futility of existence.
      Wow..no evidence for evolution? That's really a sad thing to read, to know that people can think this way. There are mountains of evidence in support of this principle.

      Begin here:

      29+ Evidences for Macroevolution

      Can you point to any evidence that has not been thoroughly debunked that supports the notion that humans and dinosaurs walked the Earth at the same time?

      Evolution is certainly true, but please do not cut your wrists when you take the time to educate yourself.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MarkFL View Post
      Wow..no evidence for evolution? That's really a sad thing to read, to know that people can think this way. There are mountains of evidence in support of this principle.

      Begin here:

      29+ Evidences for Macroevolution

      Can you point to any evidence that has not been thoroughly debunked that supports the notion that humans and dinosaurs walked the Earth at the same time?

      Evolution is certainly true, but please do not cut your wrists when you take the time to educate yourself.
      As you have pointed out many times it is only a theory and therefore no conclusive proof has been submitted. It is a theory
      Isaiah 40:31

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      Quote Originally Posted by bill1231 View Post
      As you have pointed out many times it is only a theory and therefore no conclusive proof has been submitted. It is a theory
      Bill, I have to say I am surprised that you are saying "it's only a theory." You are making the common mistake of confusing hypothesis with theory. It's not just come idea someone has put forth with no backing evidence. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation. Evolution has solidly stood that test for over 150 years. Gravity is also a theory, in the form of general relativity, for which there is a great deal of supporting evidence.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MarkFL View Post
      Bill, I have to say I am surprised that you are saying "it's only a theory." You are making the common mistake of confusing hypothesis with theory. It's not just come idea someone has put forth with no backing evidence. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation. Evolution has solidly stood that test for over 150 years. Gravity is also a theory, in the form of general relativity, for which there is a great deal of supporting evidence.
      I dont disagree with this but I would point out that before the big bang theory there was another one that was well thought of and who knows that may end up being disproved as well
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      Quote Originally Posted by bill1231 View Post
      I dont disagree with this but I would point out that before the big bang theory there was another one that was well thought of and who knows that may end up being disproved as well
      True, sometime better theories come to light which supplant existing theories. However, in the case of evolution this is extremely unlikely. A better version of evolution may likely come about, but it will still be what we call evolution.

      A better theory of gravity is needed as well, because general relativity is a classical theory, and as such does not include quantum fluctuations. But this doesn't mean that general relativity is just plain wrong, it just means it isn't entirely complete. It still works very well on the macro scale, and only breaks down under certain extreme conditions.
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