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      I thought most observatories still had the old time telescopes you could use. Those can't be manipulated. I don't know the answer to your question about NASA but the ISS exists.
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      If they're not in space I can't use GPS and maps.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rens View Post
      If they're not in space I can't use GPS and maps.
      I might have to dig a little for the evidence - but from what I understand GPS was available at the time of world war 2 - and there is/was no need for satellites for this technology. Especially on a flat earth model - signals can travel very far, especially if they are bounced off the ionosphere.

      Edit: Also if memory serves - "satellites" made their first appearance in one of the novels of a science fiction writer who's name was L Ron Hubbard.
      Last edited by Stravinsk; 11-25-2016 at 07:43 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsk View Post
      I might have to dig a little for the evidence - but from what I understand GPS was available at the time of world war 2 - and there is/was no need for satellites for this technology. Especially on a flat earth model - signals can travel very far, especially if they are bounced off the ionosphere.
      You believe the earth is flat? That doesn't even work with aeroplanes. Then how come it's night in Australia when it's day in Holland?

      https://answersingenesis.org/answers...rms-the-bible/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rens View Post
      You believe the earth is flat? That doesn't even work with aeroplanes. Then how come it's night in Australia when it's day in Holland?

      https://answersingenesis.org/answers...rms-the-bible/
      Because the sun is not over Australia when it's night here, obviously. Yes, I have come to this belief in a flat earth. The sun spins in a spiral above the flat plane (not plane-t) of the earth, giving us our days and seasons.

      The globe earth does not explain why we in Australia are now in spring/summer and those in the "northern hemisphere" are experiencing Autumn/Winter.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsk View Post
      ...The globe earth does not explain why we in Australia are now in spring/summer and those in the "northern hemisphere" are experiencing Autumn/Winter.
      Yes, it does actually and quite satisfactorily I might add. Surely, you are tugging on legs here.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MarkFL View Post
      Yes, it does actually and quite satisfactorily I might add. Surely, you are tugging on legs here.
      Give it a few more pages and I bet you're convinced it's a flat earth.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rens View Post
      Give it a few more pages and I bet you're convinced it's a flat earth.
      yeah...no.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rens View Post
      Give it a few more pages and I bet you're convinced it's a flat earth.
      The position I take is a minority one, even among all the religious - be that Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim etc. Most everyone believes in the globe model because they have been indoctrinated with it since their earliest childhood and continue to be indoctrinated with it through false and speculative science and fictional shows and movies to which they have become attached. I come from a Christian background and although I have doubted at times (and still do doubt) certain things in the collection of writings we call "holy Scripture" - I have ALWAYS believed in a Creator. The Deist position is not Agnostic or Atheistic - we affirm a Creator, and point to the evidence of nature as proof.

      That being said - it has taken well over a year for me to reach this conclusion of flat earth, with a lot of time spent in listening to the real flat earther's arguments. I say real because there is/are counter groups that pretend to be believers but are only there to muddy the waters and/or are controlled opposition. It was not just an intellectual conversion - there was a ton of emotion involved. With the amount of people who mock us, call us stupid and have hostility towards us - it is not a decision that is come to lightly.

      I do not think I can convince an Atheist/Agnostic. Mark's beliefs and his posts have shown he is deeply committed to something I reject.

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      Theism is something I reject on lack of evidence. I cannot say theism is wrong because there is no evidence either way, therefore I take the default position of rejecting the claim. However, a flat Earth model I can say is utterly wrong because of all the evidence against it.
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