Muslims Are Not Atheists

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

I saw this recently posted:

Hammster said:
Muslims are atheists.

Muslims are theists, specifically monotheists, because they believe in the God Allah. Atheists do not believe in any gods. Now that I have elucidated the difference, are there any questions?

Hammster · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
I saw this recently posted:

Muslims are theists, specifically monotheists, because they believe in the God Allah. Atheists do not believe in any gods. Now that I have elucidated the difference, are there any questions?

Their religion is monotheistic. They are atheists.

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

Hammster said:
Their religion is monotheistic. They are atheists.

So, are you saying all monotheists are atheists?

Hammster · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
So, are you saying all monotheists are atheists?

No. I'm a monotheist.

MoreCoffee · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
... Muslims are theists, specifically monotheists, because they believe in the God Allah. Atheists do not believe in any gods. Now that I have elucidated the difference, are there any questions?

Yep, Muslims are theists and they are also monotheists hence not atheists.

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

Hammster said:
No. I'm a monotheist.

Can you explain how one can be a theist and an atheist at the same time?

Alithis · Oct 9, 2015

Nah... They dont believe in the one true living god.which means no god at all.they are same as atheists

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

Alithis said:
Nah... They dont believe in the one true living god.which means no god at all.they are same as atheists

All theists, including Muslims, are presumably convinced that they believe in a true god or gods, otherwise their belief would make no sense. Why would someone believe in something in which they don't believe? That makes about as much sense as saying Muslims are atheists.

Now both Muslims and atheists are non-Christians, but that's about as far as the similarity goes when it comes to religious affiliation.

Hammster · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
Can you explain how one can be a theist and an atheist at the same time?

You cannot. I never said you could.

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

Hammster said:
You cannot. I never said you could.

You stated that Muslims are monotheists (which are theists), and then you said they are atheists as well. Please explain how that works.

seekingsolace · Oct 9, 2015

This seems to be an argument over validity of belief, rather than the definition.

A little pointless and unfruitful (for Christians) to debate trivial things.

Hammster · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
You stated that Muslims are monotheists (which are theists), and then you said they are atheists as well. Please explain how that works.

No, I said their religion is monotheistic. They are atheists. In other words, they created a god that is singular in nature. That doesn't mean that it's a real god.

Ruth · Oct 9, 2015

I don't believe Muslims are atheists. Just because they believe in their God it doesn't mean that it's not the same as God. I hope that makes sense.

popsthebuilder · Oct 9, 2015

Alithis said:
Nah... They dont believe in the one true living god.which means no god at all.they are same as atheists

Allah translates to God. The merciful creator of all. How is that not the same one God of all Abrahamic religion?

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

psalms 91 · Oct 9, 2015

I really dont think God said convert or chop off their heads. Islam is not a religion of peace or tolorance

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

Hammster said:
No, I said their religion is monotheistic. They are atheists. In other words, they created a god that is singular in nature. That doesn't mean that it's a real god.

If a god had to be provable as real, there would be no such thing as theists at all.

Hammster · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
If a god had to be provable as real, there would be no such thing as theists at all.

And here we go.

MarkFL · Oct 9, 2015

Hammster said:
And here we go.

The moment to say "and here we go" was when you wrongly stated that Muslims are atheists. Just because you are not a Muslim does not mean you can deny the fact that they are every bit as much a theist as you are. Christians are not the only theists...any person who believes in any god or gods is a theist. This is how the word is defined...look it up.

Ruth · Oct 9, 2015

bill1231 said:
I really dont think God said convert or chop off their heads. Islam is not a religion of peace or tolorance

Yes it is. You are mistaking the extreme terrorists withe regular Muslims. They are peace loving people. Most Muslims are not committing terror crimes.

Hammster · Oct 9, 2015

MarkFL said:
The moment to say "and here we go" was when you wrongly stated that Muslims are atheists. Just because you are not a Muslim does not mean you can deny the fact that they are every bit as much a theist as you are. Christians are not the only theists...any person who believes in any god or gods is a theist. This is how the word is defined...look it up.

On a Christian forum, I certainly can. There are things that we, as Christians, assume to be true. So since Muslims deny the God of scripture, they are atheists.

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