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Most likely, no. No. Not unless he sincerely believed that the RCC is the one true and only genuine church but left it anyway. It's most unlikely that this does describe your pastor's thinking, and even then it's an open question whether abandoning membership in the RCC in itself damns anyone...

Faith is not a 'good work.'

Yes, but you've refused, when asked, to cite any verses that substantiate your claims. What you've said instead is "It's the scriptural view," and then called people Calvinists who are not Calvinists, and also said you believe what you do because of what your denomination teaches. If that is...

You've already explained to us that you cannot refer to any verses from the word of God that substantiate your view. How would the ability of a human to reject the Faith prove that God does not give the gift of Faith to certain people? Well, the idea of salvation by works is not very...

Just as within Catholicism there are many different doctrines. None of this does anything to settle the question about what the correct teaching is. If you cannot support your POV with the word of God, why should we discuss this matter a moment longer? Okay. Maybe we should just leave it at...

Hmmm. That's quite a misuse of the term Faith. You maybe have forgotten that Christ is God. Yes, but no one here is denying that. I guess I can't vouch for what unidentified people might have said or meant or that you are correctly repeating it. In any case, it doesn't decide the question...

That again is a non-sequitur. All men being drawn to Christ does not mean that all who are drawn will become and remain disciples. For that, it takes saving Faith. He is referencing those whom the Father gave him out of all of mankind. Had there been no such selection process on the part of the...

Your opinion is your opinion, of course, but most Bible commentators disagree with it. As Gill, for one, explains that passage from John--"I will draw all men to me; which is not to be understood of the concourse of people about him, when on the cross, some for him, and others against him, some...

John 6:37 “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.” Acts of the Apostles 13:48 “When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.”...

and be saved as a result. You may have read the previous posts too hastily, if that is your conclusion.

That's what a Universalist would say in rebuttal...and some (Eastern) Orthodox Christians as well. But as I read your posts, it seems that you may want it both ways--Jesus saved everyone, not just made it possible for all to be saved; YET at the same time we have free will and so can choose to...

That's kind of a non-sequitur, isn't it? Man being free to choose doesn't either prove or disprove the idea of predestination. That's the language that's used, but it refers to the extent of his work. The "world" there obviously does not mean that every last individual person who is born will...

That could show that their belief or faith wasn't real. After all, we know that many people get fired up about some cause or other but then give it up when it's not so much fun, another one comes along, or something else in that vein. It's like the Biblical story about the good seed falling upon...

"Role?" Meaning what??

Here it is (post #8), so please stop with the denials. You can say that you meant something else, but it's clear that you did indeed write what we've been responding to (put by me in red for emphasis), And that's just to comment on post #8...because that was the post to which you directed us...

You may have meant something other than what you wrote. But all the reader can go by is what you did write, so your protestations at this point in the discussion are not going to work. Here is what you wrote: Not in those exact words, but if he did "cause" to happen what did happen, and it is...

Because it doesn't. If he had CAUSED Adam to sin, God would have shared the responsibility and guilt for that sinful act. He merely put it up to Adam to make his own choices. Yes. Yes. Probably because God wanted a creature who would love him and willingly follow God's wishes. But had God...

As Josiah was explaining, NONE of that adds up to God having "caused" the outcome. That said, if we want to return to discussing his willingness to allow free will to men or what the word "control" is supposed to mean in this debate, then that's fine. But "caused?" No.

No. Not if you mean by "control" that he scripts it.

That's a toughie. In a way. What I mean is that Orthodoxy is more orthodox. It is free of the most grievous of the Roman Catholic innovations. But on the other hand, Eastern Orthodoxy is too esoteric, mystical, etc. for most Westerners, me included. The divine liturgy is beautiful in a way...